Anyone depressed after last nights fights?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Russell, Jan 30, 2017.


  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Rigo did this to himself. He KNOWS exactly what the problem is, I think he even promised to be more aggressive in his last fight against subpar opponent. and he stinks the joint out again. It seems he is very protective of having his chin checked.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're giving into the way things are in a crooked, **** you in the ass without even giving you a reach around sport. The way it works isn't the way it has to work and it certainly isn't for the benefit of the sport. It's validating ducking.

    We could have a guy with wins over Donaire, Lomo, Frampton, Cruz,

    In 25 years people are going to talk about Rigo in hushed tones like Tefilio Stevenson, someone we never got to see go pro period. His whole story is going to be untold, and he's just going to fade into history when in reality we could potentially have a fighter with a top 50 or higher ATG resume.

    That's bull****, and you're free to slice it into whatever shape you want
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    And my problem isn't just Rigo, it's predictable outcomes, robberies, every other Mexican ever losing numerous times throughout their face because of their awful facial features. A guy that's great for the sport like Vargas being turned into a movie monster every time he fights.

    Several fights being cancelled in just the past few weeks, mostly weak matchmaking, dog **** decisions on every PBC card. It's a lot of things.
     
  4. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OF COURSE that's the way it has to work and ALWAYS has worked.
    There was never a time it didn't work that way.

    You get paid if you bring in money.
    Where else is the money going to come from to pay guys like Rigo big money?
    The magical money tree??
     
  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lol, because his titles, win over P4P star Donaire, and prestige couldn't of made for any of big money unification matches with any number of fighters. You act as if promoters are barely scraping by financially. They're making money hand over fist and plenty of fighters are vastly overpaid. There's no reason to not cut Rigo a fraction of whats being made.

    Simple fact is, he is a legitimately avoided fighter.

    Just a small grievance among a lot of them lately, anyway.
     
  6. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do any of those titles put asses on seats?
    Do those wins make people want to pay for his PPVs?

    If not then they're financially worthless.
     
  7. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you implying Rigo can't attract flies to ****? There are plenty less marketable fighters out there, his ability creates a consistent interest in him it's the first place.

    His issue is that he's very high risk. Somehow that means he hasn't earned what he deserved even through he's been globe trotting for years, kicking ass and taking names even though he's one of the smallest guys you'll ever at the weight.
     
  8. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im implying that if he want's fights he's got to accept that his pay won't be anything special and until people are clamouring to see him, that's the unfortunate truth of the matter.

    There's a reason that one if the most talented fighters of his generation is fighting on the undercard of Liam Williams-Gary Corcoran
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    The HBO card was good and the Showtime card delivered tremendously. Not sure what to complain about. I think you're getting too emotional. And how'd this become a Rigondeaux thread again? Yes, most of us want the best fights with the best fighters which include hypothetical fights involving him. There's not much more to discuss on him.
     
  10. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Isn't Rigo fighting on the undercard of that Cotto/Kirkland PPV that's gonna bomb so hard?
     
  11. PIPO23

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    Because you have Trump as a President. He is doing a good job at getting the world to hate America. Like Mexicans going to love that wall. Muslims will love his ban. Meng Trump is a douche bag.
     
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why was this thread steered away from what I was attempting to share? I shared other viewpoints once they were later brought up, yes.

    My points were that I would like more dynamic match-making (Cue a UFC mention if you'd like, I'm sick of them being used as an example in every case, regardless of it being the truth) and on the other side, that it sometimes depressing watching your favorite Mexican fighters whom you get connected to always looking like ****in' Shrek after 4 rounds. Anyone remember Brian Viloria Segura a few years ago? There's a perfect example of what I was saying.

    It's depressing and it's at times hard to watch. Don't even remotely get me wrong, that I still don't love boxing. But Tom Brady doesn't look like a deformed beaten alien if he loses a football game. I was just sharing, among other things, my occasional frustration with different facets of boxing.
     
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  13. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    My thoughts and therefore grammar are always so garbled up the first time I write something, even after proof reading diligently.

    The second I hit the post button I magically become a perfect proof reader. What the **** is this nonsense?
     
  14. rhin0z>

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    I think Vargas thinks he has to fight that way. I have watched the fight three times so far and when you whatch his movement its always forward and back no pivot or side movement and punching from those angles. He chose to fight that way. And i dont believe a action fight has to be fought in this style with all the unessecary punishment. mikey has good action he jabs pivots moves side to side and punches from various angles. always busy and making good action. so that macho style vargas uses with i can hit you harder and take what ever you can dish out will make him look like shrek. In fact LCS in the after fight interview apologized for not fighting in this manner. when I thought what Lsc did was brilliant. Its a mindset these guys think this is what is expected of them.
     
  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know exactly what you're saying, and it's part of the frustration that I was trying (poorly) to explain.

    You know guys go in their with abandon and aggressiveness as a large perk to their marketability. Optimally, their promoters want all of their fights to be as fan friendly as possible. And what do fans want...? Blood and guts and not much else.