Anyone else lost respect for Whyte?

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  1. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As someone else pointed out above, as a mandatory Whyte would be entitled to 20% which would probably match the £5m and there would be no rematch clause in the contract, so Whyte would be in a better position if he was to win a mandatory bout. So that shows you that even as a voluntary offer, it’s really not that good.

    If Whyte knocks out Joshua he becomes a global sensation so rightfully should command the bigger split in an immediate return, even if it’s 51:49.
     
  2. Willis Brown

    Willis Brown Member Full Member

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    It’s not a matter of losing respect for Whyte but doubting his business acumen! How many British boxers never mind how many British World champions have made £4/5M for a fight ? He is going to risk that to fight another top 10 fighter and the fights mentioned are not a foregone conclusion that he will be victorious, in the hope he can raise the ante for the AJ fight ? That’s a lot of assumptions and consequently risky ! I don’t know if he has a business manager but to me you make hay whist the sun shines.
     
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  3. Twentyman

    Twentyman Watching Netball with Adam Smith Full Member

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    £5,000,000 sounds brilliant. When the revenue from that fight yields something like £20m then that’s 20%. Doesn’t sound as good that.

    There’s plenty of people who are good with the old numbers on here. After tax and trainer fees, what figure will he end up with from that £5m?
     
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  4. Momus

    Momus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Regardless of whether it proves to be the right decision or not, you have to respect Whyte for taking control of his career. So many fighters get controlled by promoters, and come out with little to show for it. Despite his limited academic background, Whyte is obviously pretty savvy and wants to hold the direction as to where his career goes.

    Like all business decisions it carries risk, and he may lose out financially in the long run. He strikes me as the kind of guy though who would rather have it that way in return for calling his own shots.
     
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  5. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the thing i picked up on that no-one else has brought up is that Whyte said the rematch clause is the reason that he rejected the offer. However said that he will go down the mando route to ensure that if their is a rematch he will only give AJ 20% (his words). So Whyte can complain all he wants here but the truth in the matter is that he would do exactly the same to AJ if the roles are reversed.
     
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  6. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Isn't 5m from 20m 25% or am I missing something?
     
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  7. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2.5m roughly? maybe a little less? depends on how savvy he is with his money and investments
     
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  8. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whyte is playing a dangerous game of trying to make himself mandatory.

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    He is only doing "the same"" because he knows that they are trying to shaft him.
     
  9. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didnt say he was wrong... i hold no opinion on that side of things.

    Only pointing out the hypocrisy in him saying thats the reason he rejected it and then saying he will do the same thing. Whyte would do the exact same thing if he was in the same position and as much confirmed it
     
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  10. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Bang on. Dillian is a lot smarter than people give him credit for. He's managing himself, managing other fighters. He knows how to talk smack to sell tickets but once he drops the act you can see he's thought things through and has a good handle on his career. He's taken a risk, but probably a caculated one. If he stays unbeaten he can rack up another 2 or 3 big paychecks and the AJ fight would be even bigger.

    Big if of course given how much he took against Parker and Chisora.
     
  11. Twentyman

    Twentyman Watching Netball with Adam Smith Full Member

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    Hahaha, yes. Schoolboy error. I was actually thinking back a week or so (in my head) to when £4m was being put about. I’m a tool :)
     
  12. Jojojojo

    Jojojojo Member booted Full Member

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    Personally I feel it doesn't really suit anyone for Whyte and AJ to fight now in a business sense AJ doesn't need Whyte and Whyte can get big payday for far more winnable fights and possibly get breazeales mando if they can make that fight if Whyte wins which he def would be has a huge ppv against the WBC champ imo it makes advantage matchroom.
     
  13. Twentyman

    Twentyman Watching Netball with Adam Smith Full Member

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    That’s what I thought. £2.5m doesn’t sound that fantastic for getting punched in the face by AJ in front of 80,000 people. Especially if he got sparked out and it was his last big payday.

    If it was me personally, I would take the fight for a chance at all the marbles but I understand why he might not be impressed with the figures...plus, he can let the fight cook for a little longer and bang out Breazeale and perhaps up his value a bit.
     
  14. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think in an ideal world and for maximum payday for Whyte he needs a belt to add to the bargain. As thing stands he is the back up man to Fury and Wilder add to the pot that he has already fought and lost to AJ so the ball firmly in the AJ court.

    The fact that he has already fought and been beaten by AJ is huge in terms of negotiations IMO the public can easily back AJ in the money argument due to this point. In the casuals eyes (the ones that really pay the bills!) Whyte is just a regular other boxer who has been in with AJ and been dealt with. They wont see the improvement been done by Whyte they wont remember AJ being heavily rocked in the fight. They will only remember Whyte badly KO'd. So AJ say you get from me what you deserve (as offered) and the casual market will buy into it.
     
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  15. Degale

    Degale Member Full Member

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    Lads you need to remember the demand for AJ V Whyte isn't that big, people want to see AJ v Wilder/Fury

    Whyte has basically put himself in the mix with those guys but he hasn't reached that level.
     
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