Anyone else see the simliar aspects of Haye V Klitschko and Hamed V Barrera ?

No. And Wlad hasn't either. Haye never fights that regular anyways.

 

As long as he doesn't eat Steak and Kidney Pie and medium chips washed down with Dandelion and Burdock I really don't mind.

 

So you're telling me Wlad and MAB are similar?

 

No.

 

Pretty weak argument, by the time the Barrera fight came around, Hamed was cutting big corners in training and preparation whereas Haye trains like a mother****er and is never really out of shape, he is a natural athlete, Hamed wasn't.

 

Their are similar aspects but Hamed was the man and clearly the best for a very long time, he got sloppy towards the end, whereas as Haye is not the man, hasnt got sloppy but has stalled on his progression.

The best fighters Haye has faced head to head are-

J. Ruiz
N. Valuev
M. Barrett
J.M.Mormeck
A. Harrison
E. Macranelli


The best Wlad has faced head to head -

C. Byrd
S. Ibragimov
R. Chagaev
L. Brewster
Tony Thompson
E. Chambers


The reality is this.....around 2008 Haye was getting better and better with each fight but this stalled with the M. Barrett fight...when he went on to fight Valuev it had been a year of inactivity so his performance was forgiven, 6 months later he takes on Ruiz...but looked sloppy...his natural assets speed and power were obvious and Ruiz was down enough times...but everyting was sloppy. Then he waits another 7 months and perhaps takes on one of the biggest hand picks in heavyweight history....A. Harrison...who is not even near the top 25 in the world....and is 5th best heavyweight in the UK.

In each performance...at Heavyweight Haye hasnt had one outstanding one yet...their have been holes which against better opposition could well be exploited.

These are my predications for Haye results in the last few years watching him-

Predication Reality
Haye Wkor4 E. Maccarenelli - Haye Wkor2 E. Maccarenelli

Haye Wkor4 M. Barrett - Haye Wkor5 M. Barrett

Haye Wkor9 N. Valuev - Haye WUD12 N. Valuev

Haye Wkor5 J. Ruiz - Haye Wkor9 J. Ruiz

Haye Wkor1 A. Harrison - Haye Wkor3 A. Harrison


The only top star level performance he had without critique would be the Macca fight, he was sloppy towards the end against Barret, bad and low punch out put versus Valuev, Really Sloppy against Ruiz, real low out punch with Harrison.

The main problem I have with Haye, is he talented enough with his power, speed and reflexes to be able to beat the guys he has beaten in even more convincing fashion instead he left me with the feeling that he is not the same hungry coming up and constantly improving.

 

every 6 months would be a step up in activity for haye tbf, and im really not sure the audley 'fight' actually counts


i dont think theres really any similarities apart from i agree if haye loses he'll probably just disappear and we wont see him in a ring again and itd be a while before he starts doing interviews and appearances etc.

 

Good post

 

Barrera was a different type of Animal compare to Wlad

 

Hamed was also a heavy favourite to win his fight against Barrera. And I don't think Haye is as arrogant as Hamed was, not even close. He just likes winding his opponents up.

 

No.

 

Yes. Many aspects are similar. And yes Hamed can punch..... But Barrerra didn't have a glass chin unlike Wlad.

Also. Hamed was champion for five years. Had a family and kids, lefts his trainer and didn't really look that interested in boxing.

Haye is still hungry.