Anyone Else Sick And Tired Of Golden Boy Hype Jobs?

Actually i like what GBP is doing with their prospects. They are usually putting them in with alot tougher opposition than any of the other promoters. At least with GBP we get to see them tested. Who cares if they lose? I rather they lose to a tough guy and rebuild than watch them headline PPVs against tomato cans for years.

I would say its not smart business wise but its good for the fans to watch these prospects get tested.

 

Yup, Kellerman has the worst chin of any HBO analyst ever.

That said, Golden Boy is king of hype jobs , this weeks being top shelf.

 

The only problem is if you put a prospect in with someone tough too soon, you open yourself up to get the results GBP is getting, their up and comers suffering KO defeats.

A KO to a young guy can set them back years or just ruin them physically or mentally. How do you build new stars that way? Keep hoping die hards will support them?

WHy do you think some of the last major draws in the sport came from Top Rank? They know how to build the stars. How to pave them for the long run. Not the quick pay out.

You are right, it's not smart business, and the reality is, it's only good for a small number of fans.

 

I can agree with you to a point about hype. Corporatism is hyping everything to a sickening level. Especially since you (and me) are older you find it even more annoying as this BS didn't really go down say 15 years ago. You even see the hype train in TV, movies, cross marketing, etc...

Today it is about selling the "Superstar" not the sport. Look at any sport and you see guys who are team cancers but talented or can't elevate their teammates games to actually win, but still they get hyped, why? They move product. Boxing is no different.

It is cheaper to sell a guy knocking out bums and make one fat take on a PPV than it is to actually cultivate the sport as a whole and let a TRUE talent emerge. It sucks, but that is the landscape of BUSINESS today. Can't really single out Boxing. Corporatism sucks.

 

Go ahead and let them hype up guys like Jacobs and Kirkland.

Thats what fighters like Ishida and Pirog are for, they come in there and starch them and leave HBO feeling stupid as ****.

 

All of you are a bunch of yes men.

HBO and Golden Boy are dictating the terms of who is a boxing star and who is not.

We, as in the fans are supposed to be dictating these terms. I'm sorry, but these so called 'stars' such as: Andre Berto, Timothy Bradley, and Chad Dawson are not living up to their expectations set by their promoters and HBO. These fights all have one thing in common: They all have skills, but can't seem to attract people to their fights. You know why? BECAUSE THEY'RE BORING AND DO NOT DESERVE TO BE ON HBO.

I understand this might be a little extreme, but don't you think fighters should earn their tv dates and purse based on their attraction and relevance? The problem is not the fighters to a certain extent, it is their promoters and managers.

The reason HBO is clinging onto these fighters is due to favoritism to certain promoters and managers.

Here is an example: Martinez knocks out Dzinziruk. Yet, Dzinziruk will be back on HBO this summer while Martinez who was slated to fight this summer is now probably being pushed back to fight this fall if not next year.

It's the exact reason why Adrien Broner who just stunk the joint out against Ponce De Leon is getting another HBO date soon.

HBO cannot recognize a good fight from a bad one. They have some deep issues that they need to sort out in order to draw better fighters and gain more fans.

Many of you so called boxing fans are defending the actions of tyrants who are setting back the sport, rather than finding ways to improve it.

 

A true star will rise through it all though.
Look at Sergio Martinez.
Look at Pacquiao.
Look at Hopkins.

They had early losses and didnt have the careful upbringing yet they managed to get through it all and get everyones respect.

When you careful pave somebodys road you get guys that will eventually step up and lose meaning all that time we wasted watching them was well a waste because they never really had it to begin with. It was all a mirage. I think Ortiz might actually be turning out better because of his Maidana TKO. The only thing is his heart is the wild card here.

 

Dude, only Pac of those three is a proven seller.

And you are aware Martinez and Hopkins didn't get their dues till their MID 30's! :shock:

Bad example.

And after how long? That's the whole point.

What? :huh

I guess that's your way of looking at it. When you carefully pave the road correctly, you can allow the still growing and learning fighter to work out their mistakes, practice their technique that will carry them as they mature and gain experience.

Feed then too much too soon, they can choke. MIght not recover, and no body wins.

 

I agree with this. Hbk fighters like berto and Dawson can't draw for **** and wouldn't be able to make a living without the inflated paychecks from hbo. Most fans just don't care about them or the crap opponents and paper belts they have. Yet hbo keep forcing them down our throats- they just seem to randomly choose prospects and give them stupid money for doing **** all and they're not very good at choosing the best ones. They should make the prospects fight each other in competitive fights and the fans will decide which ones they want to watch, instead of choosing a couple of guys, hyping them up to stupid levels and taking an age to put them in competitive fights while ignoring the others. They're out of touch with most fans and this is why they're loosing to showtime, who might have a far smaller budget but are trying to make the best fight each other and not just force unwanted hypejobs onto our screens. Rant over lol

 

Still promoting your self importance as far as I can tell.

 

Pacquiao was promoted by a real promoter. That's why he's a star. Martinez is well on his way with his significant victories over Pavlik, Williams, and Dzinziruk. He is a bit harder to sell because he doesn't carry a nation on his back, but he sure as hell can fight and people like that.

 

you don't like black fighters. we get it. haven't you got an RJJ thread to start?