Anyone else think Martinez is over rated?

Stop posting threads, bright eyes.

 

Like I said before P4P list is a matter of opinion. You don't think he deserves to be #3 that's ur opinion, but opinions r like assholes n everyone has one. Anyone can break down any fighters accomplishments n nitpick there way into convincing themselves any fighter is over rated. My opinion is Serge, Ward, Donaire, JMM, Gamboa, Pac, Floyd r all good fighters n can be ranked however one chooses depending on that individuals point of view.

 

he needs to move up or down in weight as there is nobody worth fighting. id say move down 154 is no problem for him and there are many big fights around

 

This.

 

i think hes a good fighter. he wants to be the best. that is y he is calling out pac and floyd

 

calling out people two weight classes below you does not make you the best it makes you a *****

 

The guy is good, and maybe not at the elite level, but he's still winning, and until someone exposes his weaknesses and beats him, he still deserves to be up there. He definitely needs a challenge, but not from the smaller weight guys moving up. He should move up himself and test his skills there.

 

Gamboa?

HELL NO.

Gamboa is CLEARLY below Donaire, Wonjongkam, Bradley, Nishioka, Moreno, Dawson, Hopkins, and both Klitschkos. CLEARLY, too...

Aside from personal belief and feeling of what you think they may do in the future, there is no argument you can make that Gamboa is ahead of ANY of the fighters I listed.

 

Except that when he did pick an elite 154 lb. guy to fight, he made Dzinziruk move up to 160 to fight there for the first time.

Yeah, that's ballsy alright...

 

The same way Martinez adulation was taken too far post-Williams KO, now it's boomeranged in an equally stupid way. The dude is really, really gifted. I rank Floyd (obviously), Pac and Ward above him, and maybe Donaire. But that's still pretty damn world class, being top-5 or so. And the guy is too small for 168. The only reason he went to 160 is because no one would fight him at 154.

 

but he will be the same weight as them. he will be drained and that will be a benefit to both pac and floyd. they r the top guys and that is where the money is

 

How many MW fights has he fought for him to even consider moving up yet. Pirog, Sturm, Cleverly, Chavez, Jr and even Rubio are all game. Let's see what Chavez, I mean Arum wil allow. I think Martinez will be weakened if he moves back down to 154.

 

Floyd fans calling should not be calling any other fighter *****.. No matter how much u argue that he is not, Floyd's reputation is that he is one of if not the biggest ducker and chicken **** in boxing history.

 

he is going to be 147 I think not. There is money up in weight as well

 

this is about the ***** Sergio and Floyd never ducked anyone