Anyone else think Roy looked worse than ever?

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  1. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First off i have to say that i used to be a huge Roy Jones fan so there is no motive in me saying this but i thought Jones looked worse than he ever has.

    Remember the squinty, glazed eye look that Jones would get in his losses? At times in the fight when Trinidad was hitting Roys gloves he would get the same look. Roy was flat footed, reaching for punches, he couldn't let the trigger go so no counter-punches, he would just plod along covering up and then force himself to throw shots, he has no legs anymore, his reflexes are shot and he knows it so he keeps showboating in an attempt to convince himself and his opponent he still has it. His showboating used to be entertaining and he knew when to do it, now he just does it badly and whenever in the fight with that goofy smile, this fight reminded me of the third Tarver fight, Jones is completely done now.

    He fought a natural light-middleweight who had retired and he still couldn't get the confidence to open up and take him out, Jones needs to retire now, Calzaghe, even Hopkins would absolutely destroy him.
     
  2. kirk

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    Perfect Post

    To me... its all mental. i didnt see any effect that titos punches had on him, i just see him mentally not being able to fight... yes he won... ect, ect.. lets be real here guys... the question was could titos punch be a factor, it wasnt, the result should have been roy got his ass out of there, just like he said he would (in 4 remember?)

    I cant BELIEVE... honestly, that people are thinking this win means ANYTHING for roy...

    and this isnt being rude, i liked the fight... and i dont dislike roy, and would like for him to fight a few more times... but im just slipping a dose of reality here, hes not BACK, hes not BETTER, and this win didnt show me anything.

    Its kinda like... how gatti looked like mayweather against the joe's on espn, but against elite comp.. (hell.. even gomez) they show him he needs to retire.

    Against a fighter who should be 20lbs lighter if hes fighting at his best weight... or at the VERY least 160, and who it was obvious couldnt really hurt him unless he landed a perfect shot... he should have been able to lay it on the line to take tito out. But he doesnt have the heart for that...

    Against a guy his own size.. TRULY his own size, not a guy ballooned up... it will show.

    I hope not.. i hope im wrong and that roy is back and yadda yadda.. id love for him to somehow, someday, beat tarver....
     
  3. Marc

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    I was uninmpressed too. The legs weren't what they used to be, he makes only little offensive spurts and there were no real intentions behind those shots.

    Maybe I just watched too many prime RJJ highlights yesterday.
     
  4. kirk

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    his speed is still superhuman tho... lol... damn... sometimes i cant beleive it.
     
  5. RealIzm

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    Agreed...Hopkins called out Joe in the hopes of a big money fight before Social Security kicks in...and Joe took the bait...all Joe and all of us will get with Slopkins is a dirty, mauling, clinching fight maybe even a headbutt or two by Slopkins...Jones can at least put up good defense and still counter better than anyone despite not being as good as he was..this says alot about Jones...Slopkins just fought a LMW and had to headbutt his ass to win...So who's better? Who would make the better fight for Joe? Would'nt it be worth more for Joe to fight Roy?? I think so:good
     
  6. teke

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    I didnt think Roy looked good at all but he was entertaining and that's what his fans like. He won and lives to get another payday.
     
  7. VIP

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    Worse than when he got knocked out by Tarver and Johnson? Nahhhh. BTW, Riy fought legitimate lightheavyweights in his last 2 fights against Ajamu and Hanshaw. He was dominate in those fights as well. Obviously he is nowhere near what he use to be but I'd say he's still at the very least a top10 fighter.
     
  8. bigG

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    my question is, as everyone almost seems to be on the jones bandwagon...if jones is so good, how could a blown up 35 year old man who hadnt fought for a year and a half and was comprehensively dismantled last time out, AND has shaky whiskers to boot, last 12 rounds with this born again potential division king???....jones looked ok, but his opposition was hardly enought to gauge how he would do against a calzaghe, or, even an active hopkins....(personally, i think he would have more chance against hopkins at this stage, calzaghe wins a wide ud or kos junior around round 8...)
     
  9. RealIzm

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  11. VIP

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    The way I see it...Calzaghe/Hopkins should go through and Roy should take a fight in between and provided he wins that fight he can take on the winner of Hopkins/Calzaghe later in the year. All in all, at least this fight put Jones Jr. back on the map and got people talking.
     
  12. EpsilonAxis

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    Rjj does have that speed...probably the fastest fighter we'll see at these higher weights in our lifetime.

    The guy is faster than Manny Pacquiao...
     
  13. Bigcat

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    I thought Roy looked great yesterday, he was fast and accurate and picked his shots well. It was quite a good audition for another championship fight..
    In fact i was impressed with the way Tito fought also , he was a bit out of his depth yet kept coming and refused to cave in, a real champion...
     
  14. CUFreeze

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    "USED TO BE A HUGE ROY JONES FAN" That tells me all I need to know about you. anyone who stops pulling for an athlete becasue they lose is a chump. go away.
     
  15. markbrooklyn

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    I thought he looked great, Especially for being 39 years old. You people forget he fought that one time at heavyweight and that was over 200lbs and yesterday he fought at 169. That's a great accomplishment. I dont remember anyone fighting at heavyweight then droppin back DOWN to that weight class.