Anyone else think Roy looked worse than ever?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lefty, Jan 20, 2008.


  1. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

    4,779
    8
    Feb 25, 2006
    Biggest thing Jones seems to have lost is his Legs!... He used to move on air before and now he sits flat on his heels. Also his head movement and reflexes have diminished. He used to make guys miss a lot more where he didn't have to block and get hit has often. He still has hand speed but doesn't have the endurance to sustain his attack and combinations on the fighters as he once did. He had all the advantages against Trinidad, that is why he looked so good, but he still couldn't finish Tito; he made it down the field to only score a field goal instead of scoring a touch down. To put into comparison, look at the fight with Vinny Paz, a prime Jones who had the obvious physical advantage took care of business and finished his guy viciously like he did to Vinny.

    Its not that anyone is taking credit away from Roy. Yes, at 39, an aged fighter, he looked good last night and will against most average fighters. The problem is that when he was in his prime, he seemed almost 'invincible' and dominated his fighters so convincingly, that now seeing him 1/3 of what he was, its hard to see him fight at or look like anything less than great. Despite what we would like to believe, that Roy is back to his old self, that simply isn't the case.
     
  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

    54,515
    121
    Jan 3, 2007
    This content is protected

    This content is protected
     
  3. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,149
    1,045
    Jan 29, 2005
    Roy looked pretty good to me, too.:good
     
  4. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,714
    3,475
    Jan 6, 2007
    To me Roy reminds me off a late 70's Ali (you pick the year) when Ali had slowed down, but could still do a little dancing, and little rope-a-dope & mugging, but still had the bursts of speed and punching to win fights.

    I am looking forward to the Roy - JoeCal fight.
     
  5. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

    4,779
    8
    Feb 25, 2006
    Its not that people are expecting roy to be 20 at age 39, at least not me. Its that many people prefer to see Roy retire rather than look like a good instead of great fighter. At least for me its difficuilt or frustrating to see him just look like a shell of what he once was. And I say this because I really do believe he would get outworked by a lesser guy like Calzaghe at this point in his career. So its pointless for him to go out calling out guys he can't beat.
     
  6. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

    54,515
    121
    Jan 3, 2007

    As am I ..I do agree with the comparison as well :good
     
  7. bigG

    bigG Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,574
    18
    Dec 8, 2006
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

    51,943
    4
    Jul 19, 2004
    It's like I told my friends, a win for Tito would mean a HELL of a lot more then a Jones win.
     
  9. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,612
    1
    Apr 29, 2007
    Jones is 39 and for a 39 yr old, he did great, not to mention Tito also did way more than i thought he would, considering it was he first fight above 160 and was completely blown out by Wright over 2 yrs ago! Overall i think the HBO crew summoned it up perfectly, both looked good, no one was embarassed, everyone got paid and both put on a show. Couldnt ask for more from former top-tier greats, whose better days are behind 'em.
     
  10. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,481
    18
    Aug 12, 2004
    Agree, Jones looked finished to me. If that was Glen Johnson he fought yesterday, I have little doubt that Jones would have gotten KOed again.
     
  11. hellblazer

    hellblazer All-Time Greatâ„¢ Full Member

    5,509
    0
    Feb 25, 2006
    he's 39 but he's still fast as hell lol
     
  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

    54,515
    121
    Jan 3, 2007

    Especially to those who have never stepped foot in a ring ..
     
  13. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,802
    2
    Apr 29, 2006
    And i've found out some people have strange emotional connections to men they don't know who compete in sports causing them to be blinded to the fact that the guy is obviously finished in his chosen sport. They believe he is still the best just because they have memories of him being the best. Roy Jones was the guy who really made me follow boxing but for some reason i can see things for what they are instead of some others who foolishly think he poses a threat to the likes of Calzaghe.

    Yeah Roy Jones looked alright for a 39 year old but Roy Jones was never the average fighter, he is done and i give him no credit for not being able to knock out a retired welterweight, he seemed to be more interested in clowning and cheesing than fighting so that's why i want him gone, everytime he fights his aura shrinks in my mind. I say i used to be a fan because his ego has taken off into the stratosphere since his losses, he can't back up his talk. When he was a super-middle Roy was a classy and confident guy, now he just wants to feel his own balls and tell his trainer how to train him.
     
  14. Cross of Iron

    Cross of Iron Active Member Full Member

    965
    303
    Jul 24, 2004
    Worse than ever would not be my choice of words . Showing his age is more apt. He won and showed flashes against a slower smaller man but he wasn't overwhelming and showed he isn't as mobile as he once was. Tito was better than expected I must add.

    Why keep fighting ? He was virtually untouchable for years , truly in a class of his own. Then he went up to heavyweight and won . He then should have retired. Where else is there to go after reaching the top of the mountain ? What could motivate him to continue after doing it all ? Nothing.... but what else does he know ?

    So know we have a fading Roy who can only show brief flashes of what he once was.

    He talks about "believing in himself" "faith in God" yada yada.... well and good but people get old Roy , wake up and smell the coffee. Retire NOW after a win.
     
  15. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas banned Full Member

    2,032
    860
    May 1, 2006
    I dont think Jones is done yet, he may not have the footwork and be able to slip punches as he once did, but he is still one damn good fighter. He's changed his style a bit, it's not as flashy as it used to be but so what, he's proven that its effective. Effective enough to knock down opponents and win rounds easily. I think he will win another world title, but it wont be a flashy spectacular performance like the roy jones of old, it'll be enough to win. Im kinda diggin this new roy jones. Thing you gotta realise is before he got knocked out by tarver, there was the truly elite fighters, and then there was jones who was on a whole other level of natural talent, i wouldn't count him out yet.