Anyone else tired of rematches and trilogies?

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  1. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    People don't fight often enough for these to happen. So you end up having 2 guys that only fought each other for years. It seems like they make a rematch out of any big fight that is close. AJ should have to beat another contender to get a crack at usyk again, and wilder should have had to beat someone to get a 3rd fight.
     
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  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Actually I'm going to defend Joshua here. Keep in mind hes the cash cow. Usyk is Ukrainian and doesnt speak English. He spent his career in a weight class that gets zero media coverage. He doesnt brings much revenue in. And hes an ATG.

    So from a business standpoint, the reward doesnt justify the risk. He could have easily just dropped the belt and froze Usyk out of the HW picture. Cuz let's be real Fury would have never given Usyk a title shot.

    The man had the balls to give Usyk a shot. He didnt have to do that. So in this instance a little gratitude from Usyk should be given. Which he has shown plenty of by the way.

    So considering these circumstances I think Joshua has earned the rematch.
     
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  3. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When you're AJ, the money fighter, you get TWO shots at beating everyone who faces you (you only have to win ONE and you move on). Everyone only gets ONE shot at beating AJ.

    This is why it's sickening hearing about how courageous and yada yada bull**** AJ is. He courageously walked on the red carpet rolled out for him. What a hero.
     
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  4. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is the state of boxing so pathetic that we simply MUST go out of our way to give the deepest bow to someone who...fought a legally obligated MANDATORY instead of throwing away a belt? Especially someone who "takes on all comers"?

    F*** that.
     
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  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Actually yes. Considering that virtually all the top fighters avoid high risk low reward fights.

    Imagine making a defense against a guy who is great and brings in little revenue. Yea, that merits respect. Because hardly anybody else has the balls to do that.
     
  6. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    In this state of boxing it is so easy to duck people we should be giving AJ props
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Like with anything in life, take good with the bad.

    For every interminable Óscar Negrete vs. Joshua Negrete that seems to drag on without any clear resolution nor drama with diminishing returns of entertainment, you have Israel Vázquez vs. Rafael Márquez and the like.

    You sit through hundreds of good fights for the sake of some brilliant ones.

    Proportionately, you sit through dozens of trilogies for the sake of a couple of legendary ones.
     
  8. StiffJeb

    StiffJeb Member Full Member

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    I feel that the main frustration is just the lack of fights. Boxing especially recently is a waiting game, always waiting for something good to watch, and so it's more frustrating when you get what sounds like a repeat showing.
     
  9. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So if Deontay Wilder wins back the title against Tyson Fury, it will be one win apiece and one draw. Does that mean a fourth fight between the two will be next? :smile:
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    The 4th Vazquez Marquez fight.... but I get your point.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Nope, that doesn't exist. :nono: Trilogy.
     
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  12. MyDentedHead

    MyDentedHead Active Member banned Full Member

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    Whats funny is we get Wilder vs fury 100 and well get aj vs usyk 2 but we don't get Loma vs Lopez 2 lmao.

    I dont have a problem with the right rematches but wilder and AJ should probably not get rematches right away but Loma deserves it.
     
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  13. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After he had lost vs Usyk ( " puny cruiserweight " ) he might be big cash cow only for U.K market, nothing more, sorry.
    The business reality is that short notice replacement in Panda had literally mopped with him floor.
    Then " puny cruiserweight " had outboxed him.

    Now eddie and co might die on hope that for U.S market a ppv king might be someone with 2 lost fights on resume, especially vs " puny cruiserweight " and Panda.
    For U race and passport matters more than to watch boxing?

    I actually don't care does they speak or no. If they box.
    CW division ofc doesn't have such attention level like HW division and still.
    Usyk vs Bellew had sold out arena and ~ 819 000 ppvs.
    This is more interest than Whyte vs Povetkin I and Whyte vs Povetkin II fights together.
    Usyk ( had lurked today ) does have approx 1,5 m followers on his IG profile.


    I think Usyk is pretty well usable to sell ppvs.
     
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  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I respect your ability to somewhat engage in boxing conversation using your second (or maybe even 3rd or 4th) language. You missed my point entirely though.
     
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  15. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Getting sick and tired of how every single Matchroom A-side has a rematch clause these days, even for non-title fights

    I don’t like that Joshua has rematch clauses for every single fight he has but I can at least understand it, he was the champion at the time. But why on earth did Whyte-Povetkin and Warrington-Lara need rematch clauses?

    I hate that a B-side has to beat the A-side twice in order to have “actually” beaten them
     
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