Anyone here alive & remember 80's Tyson's reign and...

Alive and remember his reign? I remember Marciano's reign

 

Yes, the book is titled The Inner Ring, by Rudy Gonzales! Rudy exposes all the conspiracy's that were conducted by King, Horne & Holloway, in order to keep Tyson with them! All King, Horne & Holloway saw were $$$, nothing else!

One of the biggest mistakes Tyson made was returning to King when he got out of Jail. He should have gone elsewhere, hired a proper trainer like Steward or someone! Jay Bright may have been good, but he wasn't qualified to train a fighter as good as Mike! Never has been!

In Beyond the Glory, Tyson's lawyer (at the time) talks about how he & Mike were going through paperwork in the pending lawsuit against King, & says it shows King taking $43M from Mike Tyson's account, transferring it into Don King's account!

Tyson got robbed blind by these guys & by the time he fully realised what was going on, the bulk of the money had gone & it was too late!

 

If you saw your namesake fight, then there may be cause for age embarrassment...

But I know what you mean, I am 36, I guess that actually does make me old, to some on this forum.:scaredas:

 

The Brown Bomber was champ, when I was born :good

 

Being born in '81, I was very young when Tyson was on top of the world, and my family was not into boxing. I had no way of seeing his fights.

So it is quite the testament to how HUGE he was that even I remember how big the Spinks fight was, and what a SHOCK it was when he lost to Douglas. It was absolutely one of those days where you remember where you were when you head the news. It was as if someone tragically died. He was just a part of popular culture. You didn't have to know a thing about boxing at all, but his name was a part of daily conversation--a synonym for toughness.

 

I don't think anyone thought Holyfield would have beaten him. They probably felt that he would have given him a good fight but as far as beating him? No way.

The thing about Tyson's first reign was that despite his out of the ring problems, whenever he stepped into the ring he was all business. His out of the ring life was chaotic during the Spinks fight. But he performed and that was the thing
about Mike, he always performed.

Then came Douglas....

 

I said a true challenge, not beat him. Tyson was all business when he had Rooney in his corner, because Rooney made sure he was in shape. That stopped after the Spinks fight. Then it just became a mystique of all business.

 

I posted earlier in this thread about how unbeatable everyone (myself included) felt Mike was. Being completely obsessed with boxing as me and all of my friends were and there was over 10 people in our core group nobody thought Holyfield had a chance. And we liked Holyfield we watched Tyson on HBO and Holyfield on Showtime.. Now in 96' after having became a huge Evander fan I thought he a good shot based on Tysons lack of competition since his release from Prison.. But back then NO SHOT!

 

Holyfield had looked so bad against Bowe 3 and Czyz, but I knew Tyson was going to be gut checked for sure and no way was it going to be an easy fight. Holyfield was no Bruce Seldon. As much as Tyson tried to snarl and make Holyfield break, it wasnt happening. Holyfield just had this grin on his face that he knew he was going to kick Tyson's ass. He did everything to Tyson that Tyson would have done to him in his prime. Headbutts, elbows, the whole nine. Tyson was a very proficient butter and elbower at his best.

 

I was so certain:hey I put a tenner on at 24/1 for the upset.

Of course it merely made up for putting (for me) a small fortune on the Bomber beating Tyson in their rematch!

 

Agreed!! The way Holy roughed him up was reminiscent of the way Mike used to bully opponents all over the ring.

 

What got the Tyson ball rolling so huge was that he became a "sure thing". People love a sure thing in sports--a stage where you typically see equal levels of competition. So when someone comes along that is head and shoulders above the rest, it is magnetic.

Tyson was knocking out the highest levels of competition in a matter of seconds. There was seemingly no competition there. He reduced the top talent into bottom feeders. Rarely does that happen, if ever. Usually at the highest levels, fights go on for a significant period of time, or even to decision, because the talent on both sides is relatively equal. But Tyson, even in his biggest fights (in the 80's), kept up the same level of devastation as if he was still fighting journeymen. Commentator's were saying things like "Who on earth can beat this man?"

I think the Bruno and Williams fights lulled Tyson in complacency. He sleepwalked through those fights, and still blew them out. He definitely started to believe his own hype, as he wasn't training the same, but still achieved the same results.

 

yeah man if i was your age i'd be depressed

 

:yep

Cheers!