Anyone Here Favor Cotto or Canelo Over Lemieux (lem•ee•ux)...???

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  1. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    I hope so, and I hope the bookies reflect that misguided notion. I plan on betting on GGG, heavily.
     
  2. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If the fight is decided by devastating or decisive fashion there is no reason why they shouldn't be favored. I plan on betting as well going to make some great money on people falling for the GGG hype.
     
  3. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    Excellent. lets post the betting slip screenshots if the fight actually happens.
     
  4. BCS8

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    Fixed it for ya
     
  5. drozzy

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    Would you say N'Dam's jab is better than Alcine's? I would. By quite a bit.

    Would you say N'Dam's overall movement and boxing ability is superior to Alcine's? I would.

    Would you say Lemieux had more trouble with Alcine than N'Dam? I would.

    David has improved, v2.0 kicked in for the Torres, Guerrero, Rosado and N'Dam fights.

    Lemieux also paces himself a lot better than he did in his early 20's, and that factors in when you look at a hypothetical Canelo or Cotto fight. Cotto would outbox him but he'd get found eventually. Canelo is faster, would counter David a lot and could take a UD if he doesn't gas - if he does, late stoppage win for Lemieux.

    So if Canelo decisively UD's Cotto, you would bet heavy money on him to beat Golovkin? Regardless of everything else?

    Well then. :conf
     
  6. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea easy money IMO, how much I see the situation 1. GGG has fought noone on that level as far as prestige or skill.

    2.Cotto if he won in dominate fashion or made Canelo look like Marvalla/Geale it would show his other MW win were no fluke and him and Roach are the real deal. It's obvious Cotto is more experienced and more skilled than GGG, him winning handily would show he can beat a bigger younger fighter which is the only question ppl really have regarding him vs GGG.

    In Alvarez's case a dominant win for him, is expected and I rate Canelo over GGG in the skills department anyway.

    If the Cotto-Canelo fight ends in stoppage or dominant decision the winner should be favored, and IMO likely beats GGG.
     
  7. drozzy

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    Is footwork, cutting off the ring included in your skill assessment?

    How do you rate Canelo's stamina & workrate?

    Are you confident in seeing Cotto outbox Golovkin over 12 rounds without taking damage?

    "Easy money" means you think it could be one-sided. Given Golovkin's skill set, I don't see it.
     
  8. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd favour him to walk cotto down and stop him, canelo would be more interesting.
     
  9. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet when GGG stops either cotto or canelo you will just call them bums or old or too small, even though you think they are better than golovkin, so predictable.
     
  10. reed_man02

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    I'd favor Cotto and Canelo over Rubio so that's tells you all you need to know.
     
  11. LondonRingRules

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    Triangle theory.
     
  12. acie2g

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    At this point I'd favor Alvarez and GGG to beat Cotto and think Alvarez beats GGG by competitive decision probably resembles Matthysse-Provo with the same Majority Decision score.
     
  13. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just because that's something you'd probably do, doesn't mean I do fastest way to gain my praised is beating a fighter I'm big on.

    Fact of the matter is GGG is fighting nobodies when he does something Worthy I'll give him mad props... Til then he's all hype.
     
  14. Zimornsky

    Zimornsky King Fluid IV = CHEAT banned

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    Are you on crack? What are you basing this on?

    :patsch

    Golovkin has the edge on power, footwork, chin, ring IQ, defense, and stamina. Canelo has a slight edge in speed.

    :patsch

    Canelo created his own weight division to avoid having to hear GGG questions.

    :patsch
     
  15. drozzy

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    On skills being "proven" - they are, but not at 160. And Golovkin could easily have Pirog, Sturm, Quillin and N'Dam on his resume if they didn't all properly duck or pulled out due to injury. Lemieux is a top 5 MW, has a belt, it's a decent win no matter how you look at it. Overall, Golovkin is slowly but surely building a Hopkins type streak.

    Golovkin's accuracy as far as I'm concerned is equal or better in spots than Canelo's, so workrate is actually a decent advantage for Golovkin. Add Golovkin's great timing and distance control, and it makes it harder for Canelo to win rounds.

    I think Canelo's punch selection and overall boxing ability are superior to Lucas', but I think Golovkin is a LOT more skilled than Provo. Golovkin decision or late stoppage., not some controversial MD.