Anyone here having great difficulty predicting Haye-Macca?

Playing the percentages Haye is likely to finish the job before stamina becomes an issue and he didn't look too bad in rd 7 against Mormeck. Chins are even, especially relative to power. Mac hasn't fought anyone this big, quick, powerful and plain good

It's very difficult to pick a protected guy against somebody that fought the man in his backyard, unless he shows a special talent. Mac is just decent, nothing more and virtually all the intangibles such as making weight would have to go his way to win

Haye TKO

 

Mormecks lack of stamina surprised me, I'm not sure it was quite as an impressive as win as it looks at first glance.

 

if haye fights like he did in the mormeck fight hes guna lose hes 2 open he cant do that wen enzo got a good jab n nockin out power in both hands i want enzo to win

 

The difficulty in figuring out who is going to be the victor on sataday night is what makes this fight so appealing.

Ive not seen too much pre-fight conferences, but get the fealing that both fighters have alot of respect for each other. Then again, there was alot of bad blood around the original set up of this fight last year.
From the perspective that both fighters are going into the fight with the mutual respect for one enougher, theres the possibility of seeing a 12 round technical fight. Under that assumption, its then to be considerd that a home ground advantage for Haye is a possibility ???

Im just looking for alternatives to TKO's ( which is going to be an outcome no dought )

 

I like both of these fighters, and they both have their flaws, but David Haye has operated at a higher level than Enzo and seems to have just that bit more to offer. He has proven he can come through bad moments (Mormeck and Fragommelli) and raise the bar when needed.
If they had both followed the same career paths, then this would be a very close call, but Enzo's diet of softer opponents may come back to haunt him....

 

Allot of pundits and bloggers are saying that Macca fights at a faster pace than Haye, i do not think this is necessary true. OK in the Mormeck fight the fight was very slow, but this was clearly Hayes tactics which were spot on, if you go back to the Fragomeni fight it was a very quick fight and Haye took him out in the 9th round.

I just feel all the advantages are there for Haye, he is 100% the bigger puncher and by some way, he is the better boxer, stronger, will take body shots better, quicker puncher, has more shots and combos in his arsenal.

Haye can fight on the back foot which Macca has not done, and i don't think he has prepared to lose rounds for the greater cause and fight on the back foot. He has been sparring with smaller guys; Haye has been in with bigger.

Also with regards to the chin, I don't think Macceranelli is as big a puncher as people think, he went 12 with Braithwaite who had been dropped allot of times, and the distance with allot of others. I don't think Macca can knock haye out, maybe down but not out.

Haye has also faced much better opposition and been in much bigger fights.

It seems that the reasons Macca can win are only because of Hayes weakness. Its Hayes fight to loose.

I see this being one sided, Haye KO at any point beyond 4, and it could go to a decision which Haye would win comfortably.

 

I still have reservations about Enzo's chin against top class opposition

After all, he has been decked by a complete nobody early in his career. As the saying goes, you can't put muscle on chins. Since then Enzo has reformed him into more of an orthodox boxer rather than a brawler, and along with modest opposition it hasn't been truely tested

I guess we'll find out in this fight, if he manages to get into the latter stages, win or lose we'll know is chin is reasonably good

 

I have to agree, I thnk Enzos chin is better, although I dont think its good enough to stand up to a Hayemaker, neither do I think hayes would stand up to an Enzo mac bomb, which is why the fight is so interesting. Enzo took some big shots from Braithwaite and didnt budge.

 

I'm not exactly putting my neck on the line confidently, but I still think Haye will win. He has the harder punch and is the quicker fighter IMO. Enzo maybe has a higher work rate (though Haye's stamina ain't such a problem anymore) and a tighter defence. Neither have the greatest chins in the world, but my money is on Haye to find the target first. As per my previous comparison of the Ryan-Hale fight from the mid-90s though, it's a bout which either can win if they can reach the trigger first.

 

Haye hasnt fought at a faster pace than Enzo, no chance. Fraggomeni fight was the first of Hayes career whereby he fought at a decent pace. He looked iffy against Johannesson (that dane kid) in something like the 4th or 5th when he had to take a couple of rounds rest.
He was all ove rthe show in the 4th against Mormeck too, his legs had gone and his head had gone - he did well to pull through.
Speaks volumes that his team count his punch output in training too (no pun intended).

Intriguing as it could be a 30 second blow out win for Haye, or it could go to the latter rounds. I believe the Enzo Calzaghe factor could play a big part. A better trainer and tactician than Booth for my Money. Also, is it so bad that Macca will have been sparring smaller faster guys? Hayes speed and jab must be a big factor that needs negating?

How many times has Briathwaite been dropped, I didnt think he'd been down that often?!

 

Mate you are a little out there. Haye has been stopped once and on his feet to a big puncher in Thompson. Mac did not lose to Scott he was knocked out by Lee Swaby and then very nearly KO'd by Scott in the first round...he was in serious trouble but came through to win with a huge KO himself in the 4th.

That said I agree that Haye could be the chinnier of the two and that is based on him being badly hurt by Mock who is a light hitting Super Middle. That and being starched by Jim Twite in the amateurs.