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  1. Dempsey1238

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    June 29, 1933
    Jack Sharkey calls on the 'Ambling Alp' Primo Carnera for his first title defense.
    Sharkey is in top condition while Carnera fights too frequently.
    Sharkey leads on all 3 scorecards as the referee calls a halt to the fight.
    Sharkey wins by a TKO at the 34 second mark of Round 13.
    (Real life: Carnera by KO in the 6th round)

    October 22, 1933
    Jack Sharkey looks to Spain for his next challenger. The Basque Woodchopper, Paolino Uzcudun takes the match.
    Both fighters appear in top condition.
    The judges score the fight 8-7, 9-6, and 10-5.
    Jack Sharkey wins by an unanimous decision over Paolino Uzcudun.
    (Real life: Carnera outpoints Uzcudun)

    March 1, 1934
    Jack Sharkey looks homeward and takes on the light-heavyweight American fighter Tommy Loughran.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Sharkey outpounds Loughran for 13 rounds until the referee takes pity on him.
    Jack Sharkey by TKO over Tommy Loughran at 2 seconds of the 14th round.
    (Real life: Carnera by unanimous decision over Loughran)

    June 14, 1934
    Jack Sharkey (who has redeemed his early fight quite nicely) will face a pre-prime Max Baer.
    Sharkey is in top condition while Baer broke training regularly.
    The judges score it 14-1, 13-2, and 13-2.
    Ringside observers were said to have heard Jack Sharkey taunt Max Baer throughout the entire fight, "Do I look like Primo Carnera to you? Go ahead, is my name Primo Carnera"? It was vicious.
    Jack Sharkey wins an unanimous decision over Max Baer.
    (Real life: Max Baer by TKO over Primo Carnera in Round 11)

    June 13, 1935
    Jack Sharkey invites James J. Braddock into the ring to join him.
    Sharkey is up to his old tricks and comes in badly overweight while Braddock is in top condition.
    Ringside observers were heard to comment that they thought the fight was dead even, but apparentlly the judges did not agree.
    The judges scored it 9-5, 9-4, and 10-4.
    Jack Sharkey scores an unanimous decision over James Braddock.
    (Real life: Braddock outpoints Baer)

    June 22, 1937
    Jack Sharkey will make his 7th defense against someone pre-prime guy named Joe Louis.
    Both fighters enter the ring in top condition.
    Louis controls the fight and has a tremendous lead on all 3 scorecards.
    Joe Louis scores a TKO over Jack Sharkey at 2:30 of the 12 round. (The ref took mercy on Jackie).
    (Real life: Louis KO's Braddock in the 8th round)

    The simulated Jack Sharkey era ends and the real life Joe Louis era begins.
     
  2. Dempsey1238

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    August 30, 1937
    Joe Louis makes his first defense against the "Tonypanda Terror", Tommy Farr. Both fighters are pre-prime.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Farr is more of a panda than a terror.
    Joe Louis by KO over Tommy Farr at the close of Round 6.
    (Real life: Louis scores an unanimous decision over Farr)

    February 23, 1938
    Louis defends against Nathan Mann. Both fighters are pre-prime.
    Both fighters enter the ring in top condition.
    By the time the knockout occurs, the 3 judges combined have given 1 round to Mann.
    Joe Louis KO's Nathan Mann at 2:15 of Round 8.
    (Real life: Louis KO's Mann in Round 3)

    April 1, 1938
    Louis will defend against Harry Thomas. Louis is still pre-prime and appears worried about the prime Thomas.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    At 41 seconds of tne 1st round, Thomas opens up Louis nose and Louis bleeds profusely.
    However, it was downhill for Mr. Thomas after that.
    Joe Louis KO's Harry Thomas at 36 seconds of the 4th round.

    June 22, 1938
    Joe Louis accepts the challenge of former (and brief) champion Max Schmeling.
    Both fighters are in top condition. This is still a pre-prime Louis and Schmeling is prime.
    Louis mercilessly pounds on Schmeling for almost 8 rounds. Schmeling wins 1 round according to the total of the scorecards.
    Joe Louis by KO over Max Schmeling at 2:57 of Round 8.
    (Real life: Louis by TKO over Schmeling in the 1st round)

    January 25, 1939
    Joe Louis looks to a light-heavyweight, John Henry Lewis, for his next challenge. Both fighters are pre-prime.
    Both fighters appear in top condition.
    Lewis knocks Louis down once, while Louis knocks Lewis down 3 times.
    Joe Louis by KO over John Henry Lewis at 2:51 of the 5th round.
    (Real life: Louis by KO over Lewis in the 1st round)

    April 17, 1939
    Joe Louis (still pre-prime) takes on the unassuming post-prime Jack Roper.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Louis apologizes to his fans after the fight for how long it took him to dispose of Roper.
    Louis scores a TKO over Roper at 1:09 of Round 1.
    (Real life: Louis by KO over Roper in Round 1)

    June 28, 1939
    Joe Louis will take on the wily veteran Tony Galento. Louis will appear as a prime fighter for the first time. I hope the step up in quality doesn't hurt him.
    Louis is in top condition while Galento is badly overweight and is greeted by shouts of 'suey, suey' as he is hoisted into the ring.
    Louis has a tough time dispatching of the fatman.
    Joe Louis by TKO over Tony Galento at 1:47 of the 3rd round.
    (Real life: Louis by TKO over Galento in the 4th round)

    September 20, 1939
    Joe Louis will take on a hopefully more competitive Bob Pastor.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Louis knocks down Pastor 3 times in the 6th round but Pastor refuses to stay down. However, the referee is sick of this 'match'.
    Louis by TKO over Pastor at 2:05 of Round 6.
    (Real life: Louis KO's Pastor in Round 11)

    February 9, 1940
    Joe Louis looks to Chile for his next victim. Arturo Godoy, the fearless South American champion steps into the ring.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Godoy is nothing more than a human punching bag.
    Louis scores a TKO over Godoy at 2:50 of Round 2.
    (Real life: Louis by split decision over Godoy)

    March 29, 1940
    Just one month later Louis will face Johnny Paychek.
    Louis is over trained while Paychek is in top condition.
    Another mismatch.
    Louis by TKO over Paychek at 2:53 of the 3rd round.
    (Real life: Louis KO's Paychek in Round 2)

    June 20, 1940
    Joe Louis takes a couple of months off before agreeing to face Godoy once more.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Godoy turns Louis legs to jelly in the 1st round. Big deal.
    Louis by TKO over Godoy at 2:27 of the 2nd round.
    (Real life: Louis by TKO over Godoy in the 8th round)

    December 16, 1940
    Joe Louis takes on Al McCoy for another defense of his title.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Joe Louis by KO over McCoy at 1:49 of Round 3.
    (Real life: Louis by TKO over McCoy in Round 6)

    January 31, 1941
    Joe Louis takes on the always exciting Clarence (Red) Burman.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    This is Louis longest lasting fight since the Schmeling fight.
    Louis by TKO over Burman at 2:50 of the 7th round. Congragulations Red!
    (Real life: Louis KO's Burman in the 5th round)

    February 17, 1941
    Joe Louis returns to the ring 17 days after his previous battle to face Gus Dorazio.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Dorazio shows himself to be a man who can take punishment. He is pounded and beaten on for most of the 'fight'.
    Louis by KO over Dorazio at 1:06 of the 9th round.
    (Real life: Louis by KO over Dorazio in the 2nd round)

    March 21, 1941
    Joe Louis takes on the challenge of Abe Simon.
    Louis is in top condition while Simon appears to be over trained.
    Ho-hum.
    Joe Louis scores a TKO over Abe Simon at 2:50 of the 4th round.
    (Real life: Louis by KO over Simon in the 13th round)

    April 8, 1941
    Joe Louis looks to Tony Musto (who in his glorious career lost more fights than he won) for his next defense.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The fight starts! The fight is over!
    Joe Louis by TKO over Tony Musto at 2:28 of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Louis KO's Musto in the 9th round)

    May 23, 1941
    Joe Louis takes on Buddy Baer.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Joe Louis surprises no one and scores a TKO over Buddy Baer at 2:54 of the 7th round.
    (Real life: Baer was disqualified in the 7th)

    June 18, 1941
    Joe Louis takes on the pre-prime light-heavyweight great, Billy Conn.
    Louis is under trained and Conn is in top condition.
    Nothing new here.
    Louis by TKO over Conn at 2:49 of Round 5.
    (Real life: Louis KO's Conn in Round 13)

    September 29, 1941
    Joe Louis makes another defense against Lou Nova this time.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Lou Nova throws ZERO punches during this fight as Louis knocks him down 3 times in the 1st round. Nova is smart for the 3rd knockdown and stays down.
    Joe Louis KO's Lou Nova at 2:36 of Round 1.
    (Real life: Louis KO's Nova in Round 6)

    January 9, 1942
    Joe Louis will give Buddy Baer another shot at the title.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Louis scores a TKO over Baer at 2:40 of Round 2.
    (Real life: Louis KO's Baer in Round 1)

    March 27, 1942
    Joe Louis takes on Abe Simon once more. Obviously there are no fighters in the world. Simon is still recovering from his most recent loss to Lem Franklin.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Simon lasts half as long this time.
    Louis by TKO over Simon at 1:49 of Round 2.
    (Real life: Louis by TKO over Simon in Round 6)

    June 19, 1946
    After a 4 year layoff for war activities and the such, Joe Louis will defend his title once more, against previous loser Billy Conn (light-heavyweight).
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    This is just one more mismatch in a long string of mismatches.
    Louis by TKO over Conn at 2:42 of Round 7.
    (Real life: Louis KO's Conn in Round 8)

    September 18, 1946
    Joe Louis will now face Tami Mauriello (pre-prime). The fans can hardly contain their excitement.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Mauriello throws no punches. Not one. Zero.
    Joe Louis by TKO over Tami Mauriello at 2:52 of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Louis KO's Mauriello in the 1st round)

    December 5, 1947
    Joe Louis latest challenger will be Jersey Joe Walcott.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Not since Louis won the title from Jack Sharkey about 7 centuries ago, has a fighter lasted this long.
    Joe Louis scores a TKO over Jersey Joe Walcott at 2:15 of Round 11.
    (Real life: Louis over Walcott by split decision)

    June 25, 1948
    Joe Louis was so impressed with Jersey Joe's ability to withstand a whupping, he permits Walcott to enter the ring to be whupped once more.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Walcott is knocked down 5 times in the fight.
    Joe Louis scores a TKO over Walcott at 1 second of the 11th round.
    (Real life: Louis KO's Walcott in the 11th round)

    September 27, 1950
    Joe Louis (again), this time post-prime faces Ezzard Charles. Anticipation runs high for this fight.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The fight goes the distance with Louis scoring the one and only knockdown of the fight.
    The unofficial scorer at ringside calls the fight even at 7-7.
    The offical decision was not settled until the completion of the 15th round.
    Judge one scores it 10-5 for Ezzard Charles.
    Judge two scores it 8-7 for Joe Louis.
    Judge three scores it 8-6 for Ezzard Charles (Charles won the 15th round on his scorecard).
    Ezzard Charles over Joe Louis by split decision.
    (Real life: Charles by unanimous decision over Louis)

    The Joe Louis reign is over. His sim championship matches his real life championship as he made successful defenses against all
    challengers (such as they were) until he met up with Ezzard Charles
     
  3. Dempsey1238

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    December 5, 1950
    Ezzard Charles selects Nick Barone for his first title defense. Barone will appear in a pre-prime state as he is still just 24.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Charles totally controls the fight and batters away at Barone's eyes.
    Ezzard Charles by TKO over Nick Barone at the 18 second mark of Round 10.
    (Real life: Charles by KO over Barone in Round 11)

    January 12, 1951
    Charles will defend against Lee Oma. Oma will fight as post-prime as he is approaching 35 and this is his last real-life fight.
    Charles is in top condition while Oma appears completely unprepared.
    And it shows.
    Charles by KO over Oma at 2:46 of Round 1.
    (Real life: Charles by TKO over Oma in Round 10)

    March 7, 1951
    Ezzard Charles welcomes Jersey Joe Walcott to the ring. Walcott is a 2-time loser to Joe Louis, both times suffering a TKO in the 11th round. Walcott is looking a little long in the tooth and will fight post-prime.
    Both fighters appear in top condition.
    Charles batters Walcott to make him a 3-time loser.
    Ezzard Charles by TKO over Jersey Joe Walcott at the 20 second mark of Round 9)
    (Real life: Charles scores an unanimous decision over Walcott)

    May 30, 1951
    Charles will take on Joey Maxim (light-heavyweight champion) who will make a step up in class.
    Both fighters appear in top condition.
    Maxim cannot handle the move up.
    Charles by TKO over Maxim at the 47 second mark of the 3rd round.
    (Real life: Charles by unanimous decision over Maxim)

    July 18, 1951
    Ezzard Charles once more will host a post-prime, 3-time loser named Jersey Joe Walcott.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Tonight was once again not Jersey Joe's night.
    Charles by TKO at the 24 second mark of Round 12.
    (Real life: Walcott by KO over Charles in Round 7)

    June 5, 1952
    Ezzard Charles will allow Jersey Joe into the ring for another fight.
    Both fighters appear in top condition.
    Walcott is battered around for a 5th time.
    Charles by TKO at 2:57 of Round 3.
    (Real life: Walcott by unanimous decision over Charles)

    September 23, 1952
    Ezzard Charles will now take on a real challenger by the name of Rocky Marciano.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The scorecards reflect a draw when the fight is halted due to the severity of a cut.
    Ezzard Charles remains champion by virtue of his TKO over Marciano at 1:18 of the 8th round.
    (Real life: Marciano over Walcott by KO in the 13th round)

    May 15, 1953
    For his 8th defense Ezzard Charles looks to an end of career Jersey Joe Walcott in an attempt to obviously pad his record.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Jersey Joe earns a lot of respect for his impersonation of a human punching bag.
    Charles scores a TKO over Walcott at 1:57 of Round 11. Finally, the end of Jersey Joe.
    (Real life: Marciano over Walcott with a KO in Round 1)

    September 24, 1953
    Ezzard Charles will take on a challenger not named Walcott when he chooses Roland LaStarza for his next fight.
    Charles is in top condition while LaStarza is under trained.
    Anticipation runs high as to how many times Charles can knock down LaStarza.
    The answer is 4 times in the first and last round.
    Charles KO's LaStarza at 2:39 of Round 1.
    (Real life: Marciano by TKO over LaStarza in Round 11)

    June 17, 1954
    Ezzard Charles will give Rocky Marciano another shot at the title.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Anticipation runs high due to the close nature of their previous fight.
    Marciano was ahead on all three scorecards until the 8th round when Charles landed a devistating straight right and followed it up with punch after unanswered punch.
    Charles by TKO over Marciano at 2:46 of the 8th round.
    (Real life: Marciano by unanimous decision over Charles)

    September 17, 1954
    Ezzard Charles shows his total class by once again agreeing to take on Marciano.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    One more time the combatants put on a great show.
    Marciano once more leads on the scorecards when the fight is stopped.
    Marciano by TKO over Charles at 2:20 of Round 10.
    (Real life: Marciano by KO over Charles in Round 8)

    A great champion, Ezzard Charles, is through.

    I actually was beginning to think I would make it through this whole excercise without Rocky Marciano ever being champion.
    Out of curiousity I ran off 100 matches between Marciano and Charles. I was curious because here Charles won 2 of 3. The tally for the 100 fights was 78-22 for Marciano.

    May 16, 1955
    Marciano defends his long time coming championship against Don Cockell.
    Marciano is in top condition while Cockell fights too frequently.
    Marciano is not challenged by the challenger and pounds on him mercilessly.
    Marciano by TKO over Cockell at 2:52 of the 3rd round.
    (Real life: Marciano KO's Cockell in the 9th round)

    September 21, 1955
    Rocky Marciano announces that win or lose, this will be his final fight. He agrees to take on the light-heavyweight champion and ageless wonder, Archie Moore. Moore will appear as post-prime.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The 'old mongoose' is cooked.
    Rocky Marciano KO's Archie Moore at 2:34 of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Marciano KO's Moore in the 9th round)
     
  4. Dempsey1238

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    November 30, 1956
    The vacant Heavyweight title will be contested between the 'aged mongoose' Archie Moore and the youngster (pre-prime) Floyd Patterson.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    This was the closest fight of all the fights. Each fighter was knocked down once.
    Judge 1 scores it 8-7 in favor of Patterson.
    Judge 2 scores it 8-7 in favor of Moore.
    Judge 3 scores it 8-7 in favor of Moore.
    Archie Moore is declared champion by virtue of a split decision over Floyd Patterson.
    (Real life: Patterson by KO over Moore in the 5th round)

    July 29, 1957
    The ageless or aging Moore will face the Hurricane, Tommy Jackson.
    Moore is in top condition while Jackson is over trained.
    Archie is the tough mongoose tonight.
    Moore KO's Jackson at the 30 second mark of the 6th round.
    (Real life: Patterson by TKO over Jackson in the 10th round)

    August 22, 1957
    Archie Moore decides to give a shot to Olympic Champion Pete Rademacher for Rodemacher's first pro fight. However, the ruling of body of this Heavyweight Title Replay will not sanction the fight due to Rademacher not being in the database that comes with the game.
    (Real life: Patterson KO's Rademacher in Round 6)

    August 18, 1958
    The seemingly ageless Archie Moore takes on a challenger from Cut and Shoot, Texas. Roy Harris who is undefeated and never fought outside the state of Texas will travel to Los Angeles to face Moore. (On a personal note I see that this Harris fought several fights in Tyler, Texas, where I happen to live).
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The fight goes the distance with Moore scoring 2 knockdowns while Harris scores 1.
    Archie Moore by unanimous decision (10-4, 10-4, 9-5) over Roy Harris.
    (Real life: Patterson KO's Harris in Round 13)

    May 1, 1959
    Archie Moore will face a pre-prime (by just a month) Brian London. London, although not from London, is still English.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    London knocks Moore down 29 seconds into the fight.
    London leads the fight when the physician stops the fight due to the condition of London's right eye.
    Archie Moore by TKO at 1:40 of Round 8.
    (Real life: Patterson by KO over London in Round 11)

    June 26, 1959
    Archie Moore goes on and on and on and this time goes on to fight Ingemar Johansson.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Johansson knocks down Moore 5 times in this fight before the glorious reign of Archie Moore comes to an end.
    Ingemar Johansson by KO over Archie Moore at 2:39 of the 11th round.
    (Real life: Johansson over Patterson by TKO in the 3rd round)

    June 20, 1960
    Ingemar Johansson will make his first defense against Floyd Patterson (this time prime).
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The fight goes the distance and Patterson wins the last 5 rounds on each judge's scorecard.
    Patterson by unanimous decision over Johansson (10-5, 10-5, 9-5).
    (Real life: Patterson over Johansson by KO in the 5th round)

    March 13, 1961
    Floyd Patterson agrees to meet the Swedish Ingemar Johansson in a rematch.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The rematch is scored as almost a duplicate of the original.
    Patterson by unanimous decision over Johansson (10-5, 10-5, 9-6).
    (Real life: Patterson KO's Johansson in the 6th round)

    December 4, 1961
    Floyd Patterson invites the previously undefeated Tom McNeeley into the ring with him. McNeeley is fresh off his pounding of Kitione Lave and back to back victories over George Logan.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Patterson fights as if unfazed by the ferocious McNeeley.
    Floyd Patterson over Tom McNeeley by KO at 2:01 of the 2nd round.
    (Real life: Patterson by KO over McNeeley in the 4th round)

    September 25, 1962
    Floyd Patterson will now face 'the bear', Sonny Liston.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Unlike real life, Patterson lasts twice as long in this fight.
    Sonny Liston by KO over Floyd Patterson at 1:29 of the 2nd round.
    (Real life: Liston KO's Patterson in the 1st round)
     
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    July 22, 1963
    Sonny Liston offers Floyd Patterson a rematch in his first title defense. Patterson apprehensively accepts.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Patterson proves much tougher this time.
    Sonny Liston KO's Floyd Patterson at 2:11 of Round 5.
    (Real life: Liston KO's Patterson in Round 1)

    February 25, 1964
    Sonny Liston takes on the loudmouth, Muhammad Ali, aka the Louisville Lip. The youthful Ali will appear as pre-prime.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Both fighters trade punches for 15 rounds. Liston knocks Ali down twice.
    The judges are unanimous. They score it 10-5, 8-7, 9-5.
    Sonny Liston over Muhammad Ali by unanimous decision.
    (Real life: Ali over Liston by TKO in the 7th round)

    May 25, 1965
    Liston agrees to face Ali one more time to show him who is boss. There is some talk that the fix is in for this fight. Gamblers have been seen consorting with the Liston camp.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Once more it goes the distance but there are no knockdowns.
    The 3 judges are unanimous and decisive. They score it 12-3, 12-3, and 11-4.
    Sonny Liston by unanimous decision over Muhammad Ali.
    (Real life: Ali over Liston by KO in the 1st round)

    I was curious so I fought prime Liston vs. pre-prime Ali (Lip) 100 times. Liston wins 68-29 with 3 draws.
    I fight prime Liston vs. prime Ali (Lip) 100 times. Ali wins 71-28 with 1 draw.
    What does this prove? I think Ali would have been smarter to be older before he signed on for this replay.

    November 22, 1965
    Sonny Liston shows no fear when he accepts Floyd Patterson as his next challenger. If he beat the hell out of him twice, he figures Patterson to be as good as dead this time.
    Liston is in top condition. Patterson is over trained.
    Patterson enters the ring first. Liston enters the ring. Patterson doesn't faint at the sight of him. A good sign.
    After 12 rounds the judges have it scored 8-4, 8-4, and 6-5 in favor of Patterson.
    Too bad the fight is scheduled for 15 rounds.
    Sonny Liston KO's Floyd Patterson at 1:11 of the 13th round.
    (Real life: Ali by TKO over Patterson in the 12th round)

    March 29, 1966
    Sonny Liston looks to the Great White North to take on the Canadian Heavyweight champion, George Chuvalo.
    Liston is over trained while Chuvalo fights too frequently.
    Liston beats on Chuvalo.
    Sonny Liston by TKO over George Chuvalo at 2:40 of the 3rd round.
    (Real life: Ali by unanimous decision)

    May 21, 1966
    Sonny Liston now will face the British and Commonwealth champion, Henry Cooper.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Liston pounds and pounds on poor Henry until he pounds him a final time.
    Liston KO's Cooper at 2:52 of the 7th round.
    (Real life: Ali by TKO over Cooper in Round 6)

    August 6, 1966
    Liston looks to Brian London (a previous loser to Archie Moore).
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The crowd is getting settled into their seats.
    Oh wait. Don't bother.
    Liston KO's London at 2:34 of Round 2.
    (Real life: Ali KO's London in the 3rd round)

    September 10, 1966
    Sonny Liston will now take on the European champion, Karl Mildenberger.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Mildenberger is just more fodder for the Liston machine.
    Liston by KO over Mildenberger at the end of the 4th round.
    (Real life: Ali by TKO over Mildenberger in the 12th round)

    Novermber 14, 1966
    Liston looks to the 'Big Cat' Cleveland Williams for his next title defense.
    Liston is over trained while Williams is in top condition.
    Williams puts Liston on the canvas twice during the fight.
    The judges are unanimous by scores of 12-3, 11-4, and 8-7.
    Cleveland Williams shocks the civilized world with a unanimous decision over Sonny Liston.
    (Real life: Ali by TKO over Williams in the 3rd round)

    February 6, 1967
    Cleveland Williams will face championship pretender Ernie Terrell for his first defense.
    Williams is in top condition while Terrell is under trained.
    A very close and evenly matched yawner, I mean fight. Williams taunts Terrell during the fight, "My name is Cleveland, but I'm from Houston".
    Two judges score it 8-5 while the 3rd judge scores it 6-6.
    Cleveland Williams by majority decision over Ernie Terrell.
    (Real life: Ali by unanimous decision over Terrell)

    March 22, 1967
    Cleveland Williams now takes on Zora Folley.
    Williams is in top condition while Folley is fat and under trained.
    Folley takes an early and big lead into the 5th round before being socked in his enormous belly. He folds like a cheap, but fat, suitcase.
    Williams by KO over Folley at 1:23 of Round 5.
    (Real life: Ali by KO over Folley in Round 7)

    At this point in real life the non-Ali years occurred. There was a heavyweight elimination tournament won by Jimmy Ellis. However, since Ali never won the title here, Williams won't give it up. He will take on Jimmy Ellis.

    April 27, 1968
    Cleveland Williams now faces the next challenger, Jimmy Ellis.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    This was the shortest fight to date as Cleveland Williams humilates Jimmy (what am I doing here) Ellis.
    Williams by KO over Ellis at 33 seconds of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Jimmy Ellis over Jerry Quarry by majority decision)

    September 14, 1968
    Cleveland Williams invites that old standby and former champion Floyd Patterson back into the ring. Williams will fight post-prime and how Patterson will fight this time is anyone's guess.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Another quick fight but this time the champion is out cold on the canvas.
    Floyd Patterson over Cleveland Williams by KO at 1:39 of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Jimmy Ellis wins a majority decision over Floyd Patterson)

    Just as in real life, Floyd Patterson is the first 2-time champion in this replay. However this time, it's 8 years after the original.
     
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    February 16, 1970
    Floyd Patterson (who will appear post-prime for the 1st time) will take on the undefeated Joe Frazier.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The judges have scored it close, but the punches of Frazier did their damage.
    Joe Frazier by TKO over Floyd Patterson at 2:13 of Round 5.
    (Real life: Frazier over Jimmy Ellis by TKO in Round 5)

    Goodbye Floyd. A 2-time title holder with a losing record

    November 18, 1970
    Joe Frazier welcomes the light-heavyweight champion Bob Foster into the ring for his 1st title defence.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Frazier knocks Foster down 4 times in the first and only round.
    Joe Frazier by KO over Bob Foster at 3:00 of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Frazier by KO over Foster in the 2nd round)

    March 8, 1971
    Joe Frazier accepts the challenge of Muhammad Ali. Ali will fight as the greatest to never have won in this replay.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Ali is ahead on all 3 scorecards (but not by much) when the fight is stopped in the 14th round.
    Ali knocks Frazier to the canvas 3 times in the fight.
    Muhammad Ali by TKO over Joe Frazier at 2:54 of the 14th round.
    (Real life: Frazier by unanimous decision)

    January 15, 1972
    Muhammad Ali lays it all on the line when he agrees to take on Terry Daniels (the man who ko'd Clyde Elmo Brown) in his first title defense.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    A surprising performance by Terry Daniels who wins the respect of all who saw the fight. He opened gashes over both of Ali's eyes and bloodied his nose. He went toe to toe with the champion for 15 rounds.
    Judge 1 scored it 7-7.
    Judge 2 scored it 10-4.
    Judge 3 scored it 9-5.
    Muhammad Ali wins by majority decision over Terry Daniels.
    (Real life: Joe Frazier by TKO over Terry Daniels in the 4th round)

    May 25, 1972
    Muhammad Ali goes all out when he agrees to take on Ron 'The Butcher' Stander (also known as the man who ko'd Clyde Elmo Brown).
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    At the end of 6 rounds, Ali is way in front on all 3 scorecards. (6-0, 6-0, 5-1).
    In the 7th round, Ali is disqualified for head butting. Pandemonium erupts! Chaos rules! The Butcher is the champ!
    Ron Stander wins over Muhammad Ali by disqualification.
    (Real life: Joe Frazier in a TKO over Ron Stander in the 5th round)

    A brief and disappointing reign for the greatest.
     
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    Ron Stander, the champion butcher, will face the undefeated and pre-prime George Foreman in his first title defense.
    Stander is badly overweight while Foreman is in top condition.
    Foreman has won all rounds on all judge's scorecards when the fight is stopped.
    George Foreman by TKO over Ron Stander at 2:06 of Round 7.
    (Real life: Foreman over Joe Frazier by TKO in Round 2)

    Ron Stander, that was quick.
    The stars are realigned in the heavens and just like in real life, George Foreman is champion of the world.

    September 1, 1973
    George Foreman signs to fight Jose (King) Roman, a man who has also beaten Clyde Elmo Brown. (Was everyone aware that the oft-mentioned Mr. Brown is not in the database?)
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Two judges have the fight as a tie when it ends in round 5.
    Foreman KO's Roman at 1:32 of Round 5.
    (Real life: Foreman KO's Roman in the 1st round)

    March 26, 1974
    George Foreman goes prime to face Ken Norton.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    This is one close back and forth battle for 15 rounds.
    Judge 1 scores it 8-7 in favor of Foreman.
    Judge 2 scores it 8-7 in favor of Norton.
    Judge 3 scores it 9-6 in favor of Norton.
    Ken Norton wins a split decision over George Foreman.
    (Real life: Foreman by TKO over Norton in the 2nd round)

    Another quick change in the title holder.

    November 30, 1974
    Ken Norton travels to Cardiff Castle in Wales (No Kinshasa, Zaire as a venue) to face former title holder Muhammad Ali in what is anticipated to be a great fight.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Ali and Norton visit the canvas twice in the fight.
    The judges sit mesmerized for 15 rounds and are unanimous is their decision.
    They score it 11-4, 8-6, and 10-4.
    Muhammad Ali regains the title with an unanimous decision over Ken Norton.
    (Real life: Ali KO's George Foreman in Round 8)

    It is getting so that if you blink, you miss a title holder. But regardless of the detours, the rightful champion is champion once more.

    March 24, 1975
    Muhammad Ali in his first title defense faces the Bayonne Bleeder, Chuck Wepner. If Wepner ever had a prime, it's gone. He will enter this fight post-prime.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Ali has won every round on every scorecard in sight when the fight is stopped by the referee.
    Muhammad Ali by TKO over Chuck Wepner at 2:01 of Round 7.
    (Real life: Ali by TKO over Wepner in Round 15)

    May 16, 1975
    Muhammad Ali takes on Ron Lyle, fresh off Lyle's loss to Jimmy Young.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Ali has a healthy lead on all 3 scorecards when the fight is halted due to the relentless pounding Lyle is receiving.
    Ali over Lyle by TKO at 2:52 of the 9th round.
    (Real life: Ali over Lyle by TKO in the 11th round)

    June 30, 1975
    Muhammad Ali climbs back in the ring barely 6 weeks later to face the European Heavyweight champion, Joe Bugner.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Ali lands 58 punches to Bugner's 6 as the referee shows no patience with this 'contest'.
    Ali by TKO over Bugner at 2:43 of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Ali over Bugner by unanimous decision)

    October 1, 1975
    Muhammad Ali will face Joe Frazier for the 2nd time in this heavyweight replay. In the first match, Ali took Frazier's title away with a 14th round TKO.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Frazier decks Ali at 40 seconds of the 1st round.
    Frazier pounds away at Ali without mercy. Ali does not throw 1 single punch in this fight.
    Frazier by TKO over Ali at 2:20 of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Ali by TKO over Frazier in the 14th round)

    The 2nd Ali reign is over and the 2nd Frazier reign begins.
     
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    Joe Frazier looks to the Lion of Flanders, Jean-Pierre Coopman for his 1st defense of his 2nd championship reign.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Frazier has a huge lead after 6 rounds.
    Joe Frazier KO's Jean-Pierre Coopman at 1:42 of Round 7.
    (Real life: Muhammad Ali KO's Jean-Pierre Coopman in Round 5)

    April 30, 1976
    Joe Frazier takes on the talented but oft-beaten Jimmy Young.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    A good, exciting match that goes the distance.
    Judge 1 scores it 9-6.
    Judge 2 scores it 10-5.
    Judge 3 scores it 13-1. (I am not sure what fight he was watching).
    Joe Frazier scores an unanimous decision over Jimmy Young.
    (Real life: Muhammad Ali scores an unanimous decision over Jimmy Young)

    May 24, 1976
    Joe Frazier goes back into the ring just 3 weeks later to take on Richard Dunn.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Joe Frazier lands 12 punches and the fight is over.
    Joe Frazier KO's Richard Dunn at 1:15 of the 1st round. (Not the fastest KO. That was in 33 seconds when Williams clobbered Ellis.)
    (Real life: Muhammad Ali by TKO over Richard Dunn in the 5th round)

    September 28, 1976
    Joe Frazier waits a little longer this time before facing Ken Norton. Norton was champion briefly after beating George Foreman but in his 1st defense lost the title to Muhammad Ali.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Frazier beats on Norton in the 3rd round and the referee is forced to stop the fight.
    Joe Frazier over Ken Norton by TKO at 2:22 of the 3rd round.
    (Real life: Muhammad Ali scores an unanimous decision over Ken Norton)

    May 16, 1977
    Joe Frazier will now face a youthful Alfredo Evangelista who appears pre-prime.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Just another day at the office for Joe Frazier.
    Joe Frazier KO's Alfredo Evangelista at 1:07 of the 4th round.
    (Real life: Muhammad Ali by unanimous decision over Alfredo Evangelista)

    September 29, 1977
    Joe Frazier takes on the fearsome Acorn himself, Earnie Shavers.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Earnie Shavers is ahead on the scorecards when the referee makes a decision to halt the fight. This is not a popular decision and one that was felt by many (including yours truly) to be too quick. Debris rains down upon the ring. Shavers is devastated while Frazier is relived.
    Joe Frazier scores a TKO over Earnie Shavers at 2:57 of the 7th round.
    (Real life: Muhammad Ali by unanimous decision over Earnie Shavers)

    February 15, 1978
    Joe Frazier will defend against the young Leon Spinks who appears as pre-prime.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Frazier opens a huge gash under Spinks right eye that won't stop bleeding forcing the referee to stop the fight.
    Joe Frazier by TKO over Leon Spinks at 1:12 of the 2nd round.
    (Real life: Leon Spinks wins a split decision over Muhammad Ali)

    September 15, 1978
    Joe Frazier agrees to a rematch with Leon Spinks. He hopes Leon has learned to not bleed so profusely.
    Frazier is in top condition while Spinks is completely unprepared.
    It was quick. Quicker than their previous bout.
    Joe Frazier KO's Leon Spinks at 2:08 of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Muhammad Ali over Leon Spinks by unanimous decision)

    December 9, 1978 (Real date: June 9, 1978)
    Joe Frazier will give Ken Norton another crack at the title. With other organizations popping up all over the place, Norton has claimed the title in one of them. Frazier wants to punish Norton for his insolence.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Joe Frazier outpounds Ken Norton until the doctor stops the fight.
    Joe Frazier over Ken Norton by TKO at 50 seconds of Round 13.
    (Real life: Larry Holmes over Ken Norton in a split decision)

    April 1, 1979 (No real date).
    Joe Frazier accepts a huge challenge as he takes on the undefeated Larry Holmes.
    This fight is mandated by Frazier refusing to retire until he is beaten. There is no historical fight to match this to. Smokin' Joe will fight post-prime in an effort to move him along.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    This was one of the best fights of the series. Both men acquited themselves quite well.
    After 12 rounds, it was scored 6-6, 6-6, and 6-5 for Holmes.
    Then came the 13th round and Frazier is floored 3 times.
    Larry Holmes KO's Joe Frazier at 2:32 of the 13th round.

    Joe Frazier announces his immediate retirement from the ring and begins a musical tour with his band, 'The Knockouts'.
    Larry Holmes puts history as it should be as he takes over as champion
     
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    Larry Holmes looks for an easy time when he agrees to face Alfredo Evangelista. Evangelista has fought once for the title against Joe Frazier and he was whupped. He was pre-prime that time, but this time he will be prime.
    Holmes is in top condition while Evangelista is badly overweight.
    Holmes pounds on the fat Evangilista for 6 rounds and wins every round from every judge.
    Larry Holmes over Alfredo Evangilista at 2 seconds of the 7th round.
    (Real life: Holmes KO's Evangilista in the 7th round)

    May 21, 1979 (Real date: March 21, 1979)
    Larry Holmes takes on the suprising Ossie Ocasio. Ocasio is undefeated and fresh off his 2 surprising victories over Jimmy Young. Ocasio will be fighting pre-prime.
    Holmes is under trained while Ocasio is in top condition.
    Holmes just plain beats up Ocasio until the referee stops the fight.
    Larry Holmes over Ossie Ocasio by TKO at 2:39 of the 4th round.
    (Real life: Holmes over Ocasio by TKO in the 7th round)

    June 22, 1979
    Larry Holmes will fight Mike Weaver. He is not afraid.
    Holmes is under trained once more, while Weaver is in top condition.
    This goes down as the 2nd fasted fight.
    Larry Holmes KO's Mike Weaver at 47 seconds of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Holmes over Weaver by TKO in the 12th round)

    September 28, 1979
    Larry Holmes will give Earnie Shavers a chance at the title. Shavers lost to Frazier in a fight that many felt was stopped too early.
    Holmes takes this fight seriously and is in top condition as is Shavers.
    This time there is no question when the referee stops the fight.
    Larry Holmes over Earnie Shavers by TKO at 2:56 of the 5th round.
    (Real life: Holmes over Shavers by TKO in the 11th round)

    February 3, 1980
    Larry Holmes takes on the European Heavyweight Champion, Lorenzo Zanon.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    No contest. Waste of money for the fans.
    Larry Holmes KO's Lorenzo Zanon at 3:00 of the 4th round.
    (Real life: Holmes KO's Zanon in the 6th round)

    March 31, 1980
    Larry Holmes will take on Leroy Jones. Jones is undefeated and has previously beaten Mike (fall down fast) Weaver.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Holmes easily outpoints Jones 11-3, 11-3, and 10-4.
    Larry Holmes over Leroy Jones by unanimous decision.
    (Real life: Holmes over Jones by TKO in the 8th round)

    July 7, 1980
    Larry Holmes will take an apparent breather and fight Scott LeDoux. LeDoux is known for not beating anyone of note.
    Holmes does not take this fight seriously as he is under trained, while LeDoux is in top condition.
    Holmes outpunches LeDoux by a margin of 56-6.
    Larry Holmes KO's Scott LeDoux at 2:46 of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Holmes over LeDoux by TKO in the 7th round)

    October 2, 1980
    Larry Holmes agrees to face 2-time title holder, Muhammad Ali. Ali, with the aid of a walker will fight as end of career.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Holmes manhandles Ali until the referee shows mercy and stops the fight.
    Larry Holmes over Muhammad Ali by TKO at 2:54 of the 9th round.
    (Real life: Holmes over Ali by TKO in the 11th round)

    April 11, 1981
    Larry Holmes takes on the Canadian Heavyweight champion himself, Trevor Berbick.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Holmes is way ahead on all the scorecards when he knocks Berbick down for the 4th and final time of the fight.
    Larry Holmes KO's Trevor Berbick at 2:33 of the 9th round.
    (Real life: Holmes over Berbick by unanimous decision)

    June 12, 1981
    Larry Holmes will fight 2-time contestant Leon Spinks. Spinks has lost in 2 rounds and 1 round.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    17 tickets are sold for this not anticipated fight.
    Spinks outdoes himself in his longest outing.
    Larry Holmes over Leon Spinks by TKO at 2:52 of the 3rd round. I am not sure, but I think this is the first fight I've done in this replay where the sim fight finished identical (round and type of victory) as the real fight.
    (Real life: Holmes over Spinks by TKO in the 3rd round)

    November 6, 1981
    Larry Holmes offers the previously unbeaten Renaldo Snipes a shot at the title.
    Holmes is under trained while Snipes is in top condition.
    Holmes is ahead on 2 of 3 cards when the referee calls a halt to the contest due to the mess of Snipes eye.
    Larry Holmes over Renaldo Snipes by TKO at 49 seconds of the 6th round.
    (Real life: Holmes over Snipes by TKO in the 11th round)

    June 11, 1982
    Larry Holmes, who does not seem to be challenged as of yet, will take on the unbeaten "Gentleman", Gerry Cooney.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Holmes has a substantial lead when the referee halts the action to keep Gerry Cooney safe.
    Larry Holmes by TKO over Gerry Cooney at 2:50 of the 9th round.
    (Real life: Holmes by TKO over Cooney in the 13th round)

    November 26, 1982
    Larry Holmes will take on Randall (Tex) Cobb, another ho-hum challenger.
    Holmes is in top condition while Cobb is in no condition and appears to be just needing a paycheck.
    Holmes outpunches Cobb 71-0.
    Larry Holmes by KO over Randall Cobb at 2:38 of the 1st round.
    (Real life: Holmes over Cobb by unanimous decision)

    March 27, 1983
    Larry Holmes looks for another easy match and turns to Lucien Rodriguez.
    Rodriguez withdraws himself from the database and the fight is cancelled.

    May 20, 1983
    Larry Holmes will fight the unbeaten 'Terrible' Tim Witherspoon.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Witherspoon vows to be a better class of fighter than Holmes has previously encountered.
    Terrible Tim starts fast and hard but withers and dies.
    Larry Holmes over Tim Witherspoon by TKO at 23 seconds of the 13th round.
    (Real life: Holmes over Witherspoon by split decision)

    September 10, 1983
    Larry Holmes invites Scott Frank into the ring.
    Scott Frank refuses to be listed in the database. Fight will not happen.

    November 25, 1983
    Larry Holmes will stand and face the challenge of Marvis Frazier who is looking to avenge his father's loss to Holmes 4 1/2 years ago. Marvis is undefeated (big deal) and pre-prime (was there ever a prime?).
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Many pundits are choosing to avoid this fight like the plague.
    Marvis Frazier amazes and astounds by lasting until the 9th round!
    Larry Holmes KO's Marvis Frazier at 59 seconds of the 9th round.
    (Real life: Holmes over Frazier by TKO in the 1st round)

    November 9, 1984
    Larry Holmes will meet James 'Bonecrusher' Smith.
    Holmes is in top condition while Smith fights too frequently.
    Smith puts Holmes down at the 54 second mark of the 1st round. Is an upset in the making?
    No.
    Larry Holmes over James Smith by TKO at 2:02 of Round 3.
    (Real life: Holmes by TKO over Smith in the 12th round)

    January 1, 1985 (Totally Fictional Date)
    Larry Holmes facing increasing critisism for the quality of his opponents agrees to take on Greg Page. Page does not fit in anywhere with what I am doing, but in the interest of fair play he gets a shot.
    Holmes is under trained while Page is in top condition.
    The fight is scored as even on all cards when it suddenly stops.
    Larry Holmes KO's Greg Page at 36 seconds of Round 5.

    March 15, 1985
    Larry Holmes now faces the man known as 'Hand Grenade', David Bey.
    Holmes is once more under trained while Bey is in top condition.
    Another quick piece of work as Holmes opens a horrible gash over Bey's eye.
    Larry Holmes over David Bey by TKO at 2:47 of Round 3.
    (Real life: Holmes by TKO over Bey in Round 10)

    May 20, 1985
    Larry Holmes agrees it is now time to face the 'Truth' as he agrees to step into the ring with Carl 'The Truth' Williams. Holmes is starting to look a little long in the tooth and will fight as post-prime.
    Holmes is in top condition while Williams has been fighting too frequently.
    Williams proves to be a match for Holmes as the fight goes the distance.
    Judge 1 scores it 10-5 for Holmes.
    Judge 2 sees a different fight and scores it 8-7 for Williams.
    Judge 3 sees a close fight also, but scores it 8-6 for Holmes.
    Larry Holmes over Carl Williams by split decision.
    (Real life: Holmes over Williams by unanimous decision)

    September 21, 1985
    Larry Holmes, hot in pursuit of Joe Louis title defense record of 25 successful defenses, seeks his 20th victory while defending the title when he agrees to take on the unbeaten light-heavyweight champion, Micheal Spinks.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Holmes knocks Spinks to the canvas twice in an extremely tightly fought contest.
    Judge 1 scores it 8-7 for Michael Spinks.
    Judge 2 scores in 9-5 for Larry Holmes.
    Judge 3 scores it 8-7 in favor of Larry Holmes.
    Larry Holmes over Michael Spinks by a split decision.
    (Real life: Spinks over Holmes by an unanimous decision)

    April 19, 1986
    Larry Holmes follows thru on his promise to face Michael Spinks again if Spinks acquitted himself well.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The anticipation for a title fight may never have been higher as the Las Vegas Hilton is jammed to the rafters with supporters of both fighters.
    Spinks sends Holmes sprawling to the canvas in the 4th round.
    Holmes decks Spinks in the 8th round.
    Once more the fight goes the distance as the fighters stand exhausted, awaiting the judge's decision.
    The judges all agree on who won. They score it 11-4, 9-6, and 10-5.
    Michael Spinks over Larry Holmes by unanimous decision.
    (Real life: Spinks over Holmes by split decision)

    Larry Holmes leaves as the champion with the 2nd most successful title defenses to Joe Louis. His parting words are, "Joe Louis wasn't fit to carry my jockstrap".
    Michael Spinks looks forward to a long reign as champion.
     
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    Michael Spinks will take on the European Heavyweight title holder, Steffen Tangstad.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The fight appears to be close when it is halted.
    Michael Spinks over Steffen Tangstad by TKO at 2:04 of the 6th round.
    (Real life: Spinks over Tangstad by TKO in the 4th round)

    June 15, 1987
    Michael Spinks will fight Gerry "Gentleman" Cooney, the man who was beaten by Larry Holmes in his only appearance here.
    Spinks is in top condition while Cooney is under trained.
    Cooney stinks.
    Michael Spinks by KO over Gerry Cooney at the end of the 3rd round.
    (Real life: Spinks over Cooney by TKO in the 5th round)

    September 1, 1987 (Real date: June 27, 1988)
    Micheal Spinks will take on Mike Tyson. Tyson is only 22 but will fight as prime because he is the baddest man on the planet and told me he deserves to participate in this as prime. The timing of this fight is to allow the winner to fight some of the pretend champions who do not fit so easily into this.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Tyson outfights Spinks until the end. The end is not long in coming.
    Mike Tyson over Michael Spinks by KO at 1:05 of Round 6.
    (Real life: Tyson KO's Spinks in Round 1)

    Back to reality.

    October 1, 1987 (Real date: May 30, 1987)
    Mike Tyson will face Pinkon Thomas in his first title defence.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    This was an alphabet title fight before Tyson beat Spinks.
    Thomas is bloodied. Again and again.
    Mike Tyson over Pinklon Thomas by TKO at 2:52 of the 5th round.
    (Real life: Tyson KO's Thomas in the 6th round)

    November 1, 1987 (Real date: August 1, 1987)
    Mike Tyson now defends against Tony (TNT) Tucker from another pre-Spinks alpabet title. Tucker is fresh off his TKO of Buster Douglas (who will appear a little later on).
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Tucker makes a decent accounting in this fight, but not decent enough.
    The judges score it 10-5, 10-5, and 9-6.
    Mike Tyson over Tony Tucker by unanimous decision.
    (Real life: Tyson over Tucker by unanimous decision)

    December 1, 1987 (Real date: October 16, 1987)
    Mike Tyson now prepares to knock off Tyrell Biggs. (Pre-Spinks 'title' fight).
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Punch, punch, punch. Hurt, hurt, hurt.
    Mike Tyson over Tyrell Biggs by TKO at 2:55 of the 4th round.
    (Real life: Tyson over Biggs by TKO In the 7th round)

    March 21, 1988
    Mike Tyson fights another guy nicknamed 'TNT', Tony Tubbs in his final pre-Spinks title fight.
    Tyson is in top condition while Tubbs is suffering from emotional problems. Tyson promises to knock some sense into him.
    Tyson delivers on his promise and knocks Tubbs down 3 times in the 3rd round.
    Mike Tyson over Tony Tubbs by KO at 1:46 of the 3rd round.
    (Real life: Tyson over Tubbs by TKO in the 2nd round)

    February 25, 1989
    Mike Tyson will defend against Frank Bruno.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The fight begins. The fight ends. In between there is much damage to Bruno.
    Mike Tyson over Frank Bruno by TKO at 2:02 of the 3rd round.
    (Real life: Tyson over Bruno by TKO in the 5th round)

    July 21, 1989
    Mike Tyson welcomes Carl 'The Truth' Williams into the ring. Williams lost a split decision to Larry Holmes and welcomes this 2nd chance to be champion.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Carl Williams wins the 6th round.
    Mike Tyson wins all the others so the scorecards all read 14-1.
    Regardless of that, congragulations to the Truth.
    Mike Tyson over Carl Williams by unanimous decision.
    (Real life: Tyson over Williams by TKO in the 1st round)

    February 11, 1990
    Mike Tyson takes on James 'Buster' Douglas. Tyson appears unworried.
    Tyson is under trained while Douglas is in top condition.
    Douglas opens a huge gash over Tyson's eye. It won't stop bleeding. The referee summons the doctor into the ring to examine it.
    A huge upset! Just like real life. (And, the computer randomly picks the fight condition of the fighters).
    Buster Douglas over Mike Tyson by TKO at 2:40 of the 3rd round.
    (Real life: Douglas over Tyson by TKO in the 10th round)

    Buster Douglas anticipates holding the title for a long time.
     
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    Buster Douglas will face the 'Real Deal' in Evander Holyfield.
    Douglas has emotional problems while Holyfield is in top condition.
    Holyfield wins all rounds on all cards while Holyfield pounds on him time and time again.
    Evander Holyfield over Buster Douglas by TKO at 2:40 of the 5th round.
    (Real life: Holyfield over Douglas by KO in the 3rd round)

    A short championship, exactly like real life.

    April 19, 1991
    Evander Holyfield will make his first defense against that long-ago title holder George Foreman. Foreman will fight under the alias of 'Old' George Foreman and be post-prime.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Foreman starts strong but doesn't have the staying power of the younger Holyfield.
    Evander Holyfield over 'Old' George Foreman by TKO at 2:57 of the 7th round.
    (Real life: Holyfield over Foreman by unanimous decision)

    November 23, 1991
    Evander Holyfield takes on a questionable challenger when he signs to fight Bert Cooper.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The fans are 'treated' to a farce of a fight.
    Evander Holyfield KO's Bert Cooper at 2:55 of the 2nd round.
    (Real life: Holyfield over Cooper by TKO in the 7th round)

    June 19, 1992
    Evander Holyfield faces former great champion Larry Holmes. Holmes is post, much post, prime.
    Holyfield is in top condition while Holmes is fat and under trained.
    Holmes will not regain the lost glory as he is knocked down 3 times in the 10th round.
    Evander Holyfield over Larry Holmes by TKO at 2:43 of the 10th round.
    (Real life: Holyfield over Holmes by unanimous decision)

    November 13, 1992
    Evander Holyfield will face his biggest challenge to date when he fights Riddick 'Big Daddy' Bowe.
    Holyfield is in top condition while Bowe has emotional problems.
    Holyfield looks much the worse for wear when the judges reach their decision.
    Judge 1 scores it 8-7 for Holyfield.
    Judge 2 scores it 8-7 for Bowe.
    Judge 3 scores it 9-6 for Holyfield.
    Evander Holyfield over Riddick Bowe by split decision.
    (Real life: Bowe over Holyfield by unanimous decision)

    February 6, 1993
    Evander Holyfield will take on the man who beat Tex Cobb twice, Michael 'Dynamite' Dokes.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    After 7 rounds Holyfield leads substantially on all 3 scorecards.
    Michael Dokes lands a wild overhand right that lands flush and that's all she wrote.
    Michael Dokes over Evander Holyfield by KO at 56 seconds of Round 8.
    (Real life: Riddick Bowe over Michael Dokes by TKO in Round 1)

    I guess the deal wasn't so real.
     
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    Michael Dokes, the surprising champion, takes a fight that he is sure will allow him to at least defend once successfully as he takes on an over-the-hill, I mean post-prime, I mean was there ever a prime, Jesse Ferguson.
    Dokes is in top condition, while Ferguson is under trained and "bigger than some countries".
    Ferguson shocks the fans by being able to get up after being knocked down the first time in the 6th round.
    But he goes down again for the 2nd and final time.
    Michael Dokes KO's Jesse Ferguson at the end of the 6th round.
    (Real life: Riddick Bowe over Jesse Ferguson by KO in the 2nd round)

    November 6, 1993
    Michael Dokes, now post-prime, gives a rematch to Evander Holyfield.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Many wonder if lighting can strike twice and Dokes can put Holyfield away again.
    At the end of 8 rounds, Holyfield shows 7-1 on all scorecards.
    Dokes looks exhausted in the 9th round and is flattened by Holyfield.
    Evander Holyfield KO's Michael Dokes at 2:47 of the 9th round.
    (Real life: Evander Holyfield defeats Riddick Bowe by majority decision)

    Evander Holyfield is once more the real deal. At the exact same moment in history he regains his title, only this time against a different champion.

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    April 22, 1994
    Evander Holyfield begins his 2nd reign as Heavyweight Champion by fighting an undefeated Michael Moorer.
    Holyfield is under trained while Moorer is in top condition.
    Holyfield knocks Moorer down twice in the fight as it goes to the scorecards.
    Judge 1 scores it even at 7-7.
    Judge 2 scores it 9-6 in favor of Michael Moorer.
    Judge 3 scores it 8-6 in favor of MIchael Moorer.
    Michael Moorer defeats Evander Holyfield by a majority decision.
    (Real life: Moorer wins over Holyfield with a majority decision)

    Holy cow! Real life strikes again. Perfect! First defense of 2nd title and Holyfield is done in by Moorer in a majority decision. Goodbye Evander. Stay away.

    November 5, 1994
    Michael Moorer will take on the old and post-prime George Foreman in his first defense.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Many are looking to this fight as a joke but Moorer appears serious about his defense.
    By the time the fight ends Moorer is so far ahead on the cards you need a telescope to see Foreman.
    Michael Moorer KO's George Foreman at 2:14 of the 9th round.
    (Real life: Foreman KO's Moorer in the 10th round)

    April 22, 1995
    Michael Moorer now offers to fight Axel Schulz.
    Schulz can not be found in the database so that fight doesn't happen.
    (Real life: George Foreman over Axel Schulz by majority decision)

    April 22, 1995
    Michael Moorer will take on a pretend champion named Bruce 'The Atlantic City Express' Seldon.
    Moore is completely unprepared while Seldon is under trained and should be at the fat farm.
    It is a dog of a fight, not to be confused with a dogfight.
    Bruce Seldon KO's Michael Moorer at the end of Round 2.
    (Real life: This 'fantasy match' never happened in real life but Seldon had to be inserted due to popular demand.)

    July 4, 1995
    Bruce Seldon answers the call of the "Atomic Bull" Oliver McCall. This is one of those fictional 'what if' scenarios. Two fighters who never fought each other who held part of a title for some reason come head to head to claim this most important title, Undisputed Heavyweight Replay Champion.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Seldon lands 54 punches in the 1st round while McCall does not land one single punch. The matter is quickly settled.
    Bruce Seldon over Oliver McCall by TKO at 2:31 of the 1st round.

    September 2, 1995
    Bruce Seldon looks overseas to England for his next challenger, Frank Bruno.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Bruno knocks Seldon down 6 times as the fight goes the distance.
    The judges are united and unanimous with scorecards reading 11-4, 10-5, and 9-6.
    Frank Bruno over Bruce Seldon by unanimous decision.
    (Real life: Frank Bruno over Oliver McCall by unanimous decision)
     
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    Frank Bruno lays it all on the line and gives Mike Tyson a chance to regain his the title he once held. In a previous meeting between the 2, Tyson scored a TKO over Bruno in the 3rd round.
    Bruno is over trained while Tyson is in top condtion.
    Bruno sends Tyson to the canvas 3 times and is ahead on all scorecards when the referee stops the fight.
    Mike Tyson over Frank Bruno by TKO at 2:46 of the 8th round.
    (Real life: Tyson over Bruno by TKO in the 3rd round)

    Thanks for stopping by Frank.

    September 7, 1996
    Mike Tyson in his 2nd go-around as champion, invites former champion Bruce Seldon to join him in battle.
    Tyson is over trained while Seldon is in top condition.
    After 5 rounds the fight is scored even, but Seldon is a mess.
    Mike Tyson over Bruce Seldon by TKO at 3 seconds of the 6th round.
    (Real life: Tyson over Seldon by TKO in the 1st round)

    November 9, 1996
    Mike Tyson will defend his title against 2-time former champion Evander Holyfield.
    Tyson is in top condition while Holyfield is over trained.
    The fight is scored even when the referee halts the action in the 6th round.
    Evander Holyfield over Mike Tyson by TKO at 2:49 of the 6th round.
    (Real life: Holyfield over Tyson by TKO in the 11th round)


    June 28, 1997
    Evander Holyfield agrees to give Mike Tyson another chance.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Holyfield pounds the hell out of Tyson until the referee has seen enough.
    Evander Holyfield over Mike Tyson by TKO at 1:49 of the 10th round.
    (Real life: Holyfield wins over Tyson due to disqualification of Tyson)

    November 8, 1997
    Evander Holyfield takes on a former champion (briefly) when he faces Michael Moorer.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The fighters go toe to toe for 15 rounds of action.
    The fight looked a lot closer than it was scored.
    The judges scorecards read 11-4, 14-1, and 12-3.
    Evander Holyfield over Michael Moorer by unanimous decison.
    (Real life: Holyfield over Moorer by TKO in the 8th round)

    September 19, 1998
    Evander Holyfield goes post-prime and takes on Vaughn 'Vicious' Bean.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    A ho-hum night for the champion as he opens a cut that won't stop bleeding over Bean's eye.
    The referee summons the doctor and it's over.
    Evander Holyfield over Vaughn Bean at 1:00 of the 4th round.
    (Real life: Holyfield over Bean by an unanimous decision)

    March 13, 1999
    A post-prime Evander Holyfield won't quit and now gives Lennox Lewis the chance 'The Lion' has been waiting for.
    Holyfield is under trained while Lewis is in top condition.
    A close, tightly contested battle between the 2 men that goes the distance.
    Holyfield scores 3 knockdowns while Lewis scores 1.
    If the fight would have ended after 12 rounds, it would have been a draw. But the fight was 15 rounds.
    The judges scored it 8-7, 8-6, and 9-5.
    Evander Holyfield defeats Lennox Lewis with an unanimous decision.
    (Real life: Holyfield and Lewis fought a draw)

    November 13, 1999
    Evander Holyfield gives Lennox Lewis a 2nd chance at his title.
    Holyfield is in top condition while Lewis has been fighting too frequently.
    Holyfield is ahead 4-1 on all scorecards but is decked twice in the 6th round.
    Lennox Lewis KO's Evander Holyfield at the end of Round 6.
    (Real life: Lewis over Holyfield by unanimous decision)
     
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    Lennox Lewis risks his title against the undefeated and widely feared Michael Grant.
    Lewis is in top condition while Grant is badly overweight.
    A dud of a fight as Lewis quickly dispatches of Grant.
    Lennox Lewis over Michael Grant by TKO at 2:33 of the 2nd round.
    (Real life: Lewis KO's Grant in the 2nd round)

    July 15, 2000
    Lennox 'The Lion' Lewis will meet Frans 'The White Buffalo' Botha in an animal fight.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    The only surprise is the length of the fight as Lion beats Buffalo.
    Lennox Lewis KO's Frans Botha at 2:56 of Round 11.
    (Real life: Lewis over Botha by TKO in Round 2)

    November 11, 2000
    Lennox Lewis moves into post-prime and will face the man from Samoa, David Tua.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Tua takes a licking and keeps on ticking almost to the very end.
    Lewis knocks Tua down 4 times and the Tuaman keeps getting up.
    Lennox Lewis over David Tua by TKO at 2:35 of Round 15.
    (Real life: Lewis over Tua by unanimous decsion)

    April 22, 2001
    Lennox Lewis maintains his post-prime position to face the Rock, Hasim Rahman.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Lewis beats Rahman silly in the 3rd round.
    Lennox Lewis defeats Hasim Rahman by TKO at 2:31 of Round 3.
    (Real life: Rahman KO's Lewis in Round 5)

    November 17, 2001
    Lennox Lewis is scheduled to fight Hasim Rahman once more. However, the promoters of this replay have judged that to be a waste of time and have picked a replacement for Rahman. 'The Quiet Man', John Ruiz will get his day in the sun in a fight that never has happened in reality.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    A closely contested match shows Lewis slighty ahead after 6 rounds.
    John Ruiz KO's Lennox Lewis at 2:31 of Round 7. (Is this why the real Lewis wouldn't face the real Ruiz?)
    (Real life: Lewis KO's Hasim Rahman in Round 4)

    Quiet Man Bites Lion!

    June 8, 2002
    John Ruiz will show no fear as he agrees to take on former champion Mike Tyson who is now post-prime.
    Both fighters are in top condition.
    Ruiz knocks Tyson down twice and Tyson knocks Ruiz down once.
    The judges score it 10-3, 9-4, and 7-6 for the man who controlled and dictated the pace of the fight.
    John Ruiz over Mike Tyson by unanimous decision.
    (Real life: Lennox Lewis KO's Mike Tyson in Round 8)

    June 21, 2003
    John Ruiz welcomes the challenge of 'Ironfist', Vitaly Klitschko.
    Ruiz is over trained while Klitschko is under trained.
    Ruiz pounds on Klitschko time and again.
    Ruiz leads 9-0 on 2 scorecards and 8-2 on a third when he finally finishes 'Ironfist' off.
    John Ruiz KO's Vitaly Klitschko at 1:40 of Round 11.
    (Real life: Lennox Lewis over Klitschko by TKO in the 6th round)

    December 31, 2003 (Real date: March 1, 2003)
    John Ruiz from the top of the mountain he dominates, summons light-heavyweight champion Roy Jones Jr. for a title bout.
    Ruiz is in top condition while Jones is over trained.
    A pretty close back and forth battle that was ended by 2 knockdowns.
    Roy Jones Jr. KO's John Ruiz at 2:49 of the 10th round.
    (Real life: Jones over Ruiz by unanimous decision)
     
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    listing of the fictional title histories with the successful title defenses in brackets:

    John L. Sullivan 1888 (0)
    Jake Kilrain 1889-1895 (2)
    Tommy Sharkey 1896-1898 (2)
    James Jeffries 1899-1904 (6)
    Marvin Hart 1905-1906 (0)
    Tommy Burns 1906-1908 (8)
    Bill Squires 1908 (1)
    Jack Johnson 1908-1913 (6)
    Battling Jim Johnson 1913-1914 (0)
    Frank Moran 1914-1919 (2)
    Jack Dempsey 1919-1921 (2)
    Georges Carpentier 1921-1923 (1)
    Luis Firpo 1923-1926 (0)
    Gene Tunney 1926-1928 (2)
    Max Schmeling 1930 (0)
    Young Stribling 1931-1932 (0)
    Jack Sharkey 1932-1937 (5)
    Joe Louis 1937-1950 (25)
    Ezzard Charles 1950-1954 (10)
    Rocky Marciano 1954-1955 (2)
    Archie Moore 1956-1959 (3)
    Ingemar Johansson 1959-1960 (0)
    Floyd Patterson 1960-1962 (2)
    Sonny Liston 1962-1966 (8)
    Cleveland Williams 1966-1968 (3)
    Floyd Patterson (II) 1968-1970 (0)
    Joe Frazier 1970-1971 (1)
    Muhammad Ali 1971-1972 (1)
    Ron Stander 1972-1973 (0)
    George Foreman 1973-1974 (1)
    Ken Norton 1974 (0)
    Muhammad Ali (II) 1974-1975 (3)
    Joe Frazier (II) 1975-1979 (9)
    Larry Holmes 1979-1986 (20)
    Michael Spinks 1986-1987 (2)
    Mike Tyson 1987-1990 (6)
    Buster Douglas 1990 (0)
    Evander Holyfield 1990-1993 (4)
    Michael Dokes 1993 (1)
    Evander Holyfield (II) 1993-1994 (0)
    Michael Moorer 1994-1995 (1)
    Bruce Seldon 1995 (1)
    Frank Bruno 1995-1996 (0)
    Mike Tyson (II) 1996 (1)
    Evander Holyfield (III) 1996-1999 (4)
    Lennox Lewis 1999-2001 (4)
    John Ruiz 2001-2003 (2)
    Roy Jones Jr. 2003 (Last man standing)

    As expected, Joe Louis was the longest champion with the most successful defenses (25).

    Larry Holmes finishes 2nd with 20 successful defenses.

    You have to look for Ezzard Charles and his 10 defenses to find the 3rd man. Charles beat Marciano 2 out of the 3 times they fought. So I suppose that makes Rocky the surprise of this replay by losing a fight.

    Many fighters were unable to defend even once. Many only won 1 defense.

    There was 1 disqualification. Congragulations to Ron Stander for being the receipient of Muhammad Ali's generousity.

    The fighters who were champion here, but not in real life (Linear style) are:
    Jake Kilrain
    Tommy Sharkey
    Bill Squires
    Battling Jim Johnson
    Frank Moran
    Georges Carpentier
    Luis Firpo
    Young Stribling
    Archie Moore
    Cleveland Williams
    Ron Stander
    Michael Dokes
    Bruce Seldon
    Frank Bruno
    John Ruiz
    Roy Jones Jr.

    The fighters who were real-life linear champions but failed in this replay were:
    James Corbett
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Jess Willard
    Primo Carnera
    Max Baer
    James Braddock
    Jersey Joe Walcott
    Cassius Clay
    Riddick Bowe
    Hasim Rahman
    and thru no fault of his own because I missed using him, Shannon Briggs.

    And finally, the top 10 ranked by the game at the end of all this are:
    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Sonny Liston
    3. Joe Louis
    4. James Jeffries
    5. Joe Frazier
    6. Evander Holyfield
    7. Jack Sharkey
    8. Larry Holmes
    9. Cleveland Williams
    10. Jack Johnson