Anyone here read "Live Fast, Die Young the Life and Times of Harry Greb"?

No, I wouldn’t. Never used either of those terms nor the n-word in my life. And I’m 54 years old.

Do you not find it offensive? Do you use the N-word? Would you call someone that to their face?

If you’re going to defend it, use it. If you don’t use it when talking to African Americans (or if you’re in the David Duke klan, to refer to people behind their backs) then it’s a tacit admission that you know it’s wrong. And it was wrong for the ‘esteemed’ researcher and author to use it, and you both know it was.

 

There has been push back on AA for a couple decades. I attended an East Coast Berkley Lite college where it was very much not in vogue (contrarians? Possibly.)... And that was longer ago than I like to think.

And perhaps because I have so long circulated among far left types, and I mean full on social reconstructive commies, I have grown a bit wary and weary of these types of out of proportion reactions to terms that will either fade on their own (like the term Negro) or be replaced by new terms coming from those looking to reinforce their tenure.

My black friends and my black family members prefer to be called black. I call them black with no hesitation. I hope that is OK with everyone who seems to know better.

 

As I wrote before, “black” is fine too. It’s what I use and what most of my black friends and family use most often, at least in casual conversation. Some people consider “African American” more polite and respectful, others prefer black. But if someone was actually offended by your usage of either term, it would most likely be because they don’t like you or trust you, not because they really find the term inappropriate. In any event, these differences in preferences are minor. Important point is that absolutely nobody prefers “Negro.”

 

Well I'm 67 so whatever. "Negro" is not the "N" word. And yes in fact I used the word Negro in a round table discussion with a mixed audience and where I was decidedly in the minority. No one took offence but then you weren't there. I also used the word "colored" during the conversation in which I described the progression of all the words that my black musician pals used to descibe themselves from 1963 until today. At the end of this meeting there was a group hug and photos taken. Everyone was happy and felt like part of a community.

 

I don’t equate being anti-racism with the ‘far left’ — not saying you do so, but there’s a tone on this thread that makes me think some do. I personally have voted for candidates from both parties in local, state and national races (no pun intended) for as long as I’ve been voting.

Nor do I assume conservatives are racist, btw. I don’t thnk it’s a party or left-right thing. It’s a right-wrong thing.

 

Do you call people ‘N——’? (Either version, the one that ends in O or R). Or did you use it in a context as described above ... to refer to the term in a discussion of words that have been used?

I can understand the latter in such a context — if you’re talking at some sort of symposium where there is a discussion about what terms have been used to describe a group of people over time — but not the former.

Do you use it as in saying a person is a N——? Or call someone that?

EDIT: I have used it as a proper noun, like telling someone I want to go to the Negro League Museum if I’m ever in Kansas City. It’s the officia name of the museum and it’s devoted to a baseball league that was called that during segregationist times.

 

No I do not use either N word.

 

Why not? You seem to be arguing that it’s all good and proper.

 

Good to know. I feel some of your conclusions are not correct but I have no problem disagreeing with you and carrying on a discussion.

 

It is historically inaccurate to consider these terms in the same stratum. You need an awfully broad brush to paint it so.

 

I use Negro joking around with black friends. I don't "call people" with the word usually because I realize that to some people it may be offensive. It's called a difference of opinion.

 

I feel the same way. Glad we can have a civil discussion.

 

Damn it's your regurgitation of liberal historical revisionism and dishonesty that shows the gullibility of your generation....I do not let social media give me my information kid.....if you became an adult post 2000 you are a millenial...lol if you are not a millennial you may want to get your pre frontal cortex examined. But believe what you want about how bad this country is maybe once you leave California your knowledge will grow beyond liberal leftist propaganda and it's irrational leaders......Democrats not the party of the white southern racists??? Well I gotta give to them their dishonesty has fooled alot of people........ii saw a video of Malcolm X where he is telling blacks to quit being slaves to the Democrat party and it's policies but I guess he was part of the conservative conspiracy lololol

 

Wait a minute—you realize that the Republican Party has been the preferred party of southern racists for a full half century now, right? You know that the most virulent white racists supported Trump, not Obama or Hillary, right? You’ve heard of the major political realignment that occurred after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, where racist southern whites basically abandoned the Democratic Party in large numbers, no? If not, your schools and your conservative right-wing outlets have failed you miserably. You’ve been bamboozled.

In the off chance that you ever actually want to learn real information about this topic, check out the evidence and explanations that Kevin Kruse provides in this very comprehensive thread of tweets (and no, I’m not him):

EDIT: posted the wrong link. Here’s the one I was looking for, where he schools hack pseudo-intellectual Dinesh D’Souza:

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People older than 80 can still say "negro" without incident.