Anyone here seen Flores vs Gushiken II?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by horst, Jan 23, 2011.


  1. horst

    horst Guest

    What are your thoughts on the fight?

    I have yet to track it down myself. :bbb
     
  2. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes,,,,,,
    Probably the biggest upset in Japan boxing.

    When Pedro Flores fought the first fight, his record was reported as 6-7-1 (1 KO)
    And, he was fighting at 112 lbs. (Mexican Flyweight Champion)
    No one could find his exact record, and he was a replacement title challenger
    brought in a week or so before the fight, and he had to sweat off 4 lbs. to
    make 108 lbs. for the WBA Light Flyweight weight.

    Truly a remarkable feat, to comeback several months later and beat the Great Yoko Gushiken, by Knock-Out.
     
  3. horst

    horst Guest

    What was your impression of the fight itself? Did Flores beat the best Gushiken? Was it a great all-round performance?
     
  4. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pop K,

    Yoko Gushiken who normally had an aggressive style, and would wear down opponents,
    found himslef in the reverse role.

    Pedro Flores let Yoko burn himself out, and Gushiken was fading by Round 10.

    Gushiken had to shed some pounds, to make weight. He looked immaciated in their, and had no strength left.
    He went for the quick Knock-out, and spent alot of energy early.
    Probably realizing that he would have no late-fight strength.

    Pedro Flores gave Yoko Gushiken a tough battle the first time around, especially
    in Rounds 13 thru 15, normally Yoko's best rounds.
     
  5. Doc McCoy

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    I have this if you want it. I notice you're "local" so I can send you out a copy. PM me.
     
  6. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Yes, like Duce implied, Gushiken cited weight making as a key issue for these fights.He also stated he was entirely burned out on boxing by then and retired after them, instead of making any effort to establish himself at Flyweight.

    still they are relatively embarassing for him, as he had impressively beaten Vargas(who gave Canto good fights)just before and Flores was a thoroughly mediocre fighter you can argue he should have still been able to beat.Flores promptly lost the title to Hwan-Jin Kim, an average fighter who could barely beat a shot Alfonso Lopez and then quickly lost his title to Katsuo Tokashiki.
     
  7. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Pedro Flores I bout was going to be Yoko Gushiken's last bout.

    But he received some flack about that fight, even in his own country.
    He was expected to take out Flores, or at least dominate him.

    As I said earlier, Pedro Flores was a one-week replacement fighter, who had to
    sweat-off 4 lbs. to make weight.

    So they made a Gushiken - Flores II bout. Got to give Gushiken credit, he didn't
    have to take that fight.

    Nearly age 26, Yoko was burned out as 'LORA' previously stated.
     
  8. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i got the gushiken career set last year but have not read up on him so have no real knowledge of the issues above . i do like to watch him, i find him entertaining to watch but i must admit after watching the first flores fight i did wonder about such issues as flores was a good level below the fighters gushiken had beat in other tittle defences in my opinion but as the fights progressed for me gushiken was not the same fighter as in earlier fights.

    thanks for the posts here
     
  9. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm wondering,,,,,

    Just who did Pedro Flores replace for the first Gushiken-Flores I bout.

    Pedro Flores was the Mexican Flyweight Champion at 112 lbs.
    I found the old Ring Magazine report, and he was listed at 6-7-1 (1 KO),
    before the bout.

    Then was listed at 7-8-1 (1 KO) for the rematch.

    i have to d
     
  10. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Duce, do you remember the food poisoning opponents thing that would ocasionally surface regarding Gushiken and the gym he was a member of.It's definitely been brought up by various sources through the years but i struggle to find much info on it.
     
  11. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yoko Gushiken against Hilario Zapata should've been made, especially if the undisputed title would've been at stake.