Anyone here think Jeff Horn deserved the decision against Pacquiao?

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    As I've observed before, chicks can't score and this **** scored Rungvisai vs Chocolatito that year too.
     
  2. Pakkuman

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    Pac in the dressing room immediately after the fight. Where's the damage from all the punishment and effective aggression that Horn was dishing out?
     
  3. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    No. Boxing disagreements happen for four reasons: intelligence, observation, bias, and scoring criteria. I think a lot of people in this case see how aggressive and active Horn was, but they are missing the fact that almost everything he does gets caught on an elbow, a glove, or just misses completely and then Pac who is more defensive would whack him with short accurate shots, which they probably didn't even see.

    Regarding Rungvisai and Gonzalez. I've acknowlegedged that Rungvisai hits harder, but he doesn't hit twice as hard as Gonzalez. If the scores were closer like they were between Pernell Whitaker and Oscar De La Hoya where it's a matter of about ten punches, with Whitaker leading in jabs and De La Hoya leading with power punches, then yeah give it to De La Hoya even though he landed a few fewer. But we are talking about a 157 point deficit here. Gonzalez put on a clinic landing 43% of his punches. If you won't give a guy rounds for landing nearly 2 to 1 on his opponent, then what's he ****ing doing there? You're basically giving the lighter hitting fighter no way to win no matter what skill he displays.
     
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  4. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    Nice try fool but nothing even close to the same
     
  5. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    Exposed me once again lol it's clearly not even close to the same thing,i'm still waiting for him or you to back up any of the garbage you've said, that is clearly the best either can do as it already beenn tried as a riduculous comparison that everyone has seen thru.
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I went ahead and checked through the nights RBR from about page 46 to 62. Here were the opinions of posters.
    Moparfan = draw
    PinoyProdigy = 115-111 Rungvisai
    Slick N Jewish = 114-112 Rungvisai
    N17= Gonzalez
    Drenlou= draw
    Boxingfan200= 116-112 Gonzalez
    Philla= 114-112 Gonzalez
    rorschach51= 114-112 Gonzalez
    stovepipe 114-112 Gonzalez
    CST80= 115-111 Rungvisai
    Boxing Prospect= 114-112 Rungvisai
    Robney= Rungvisai
    Blackclouds= 114-112 Gonzalez
    thanatolian= draw or 114-112 Gonzalez
    Pipo23= Rungvisai
    GK Box= 116-111 Gonzalez
    nurological= draw
    gmurphy= Gonzalez
    fistsofsteel= 115-113 Gonzalez
    unleashthefury= draw
    cuchulain= 114-112 Rungvisai
    Glass Joe= Gonzalez
    ElCyclon= Rungvisai
    RacingBeat= Gonzalez
    qwertyblahblah= Gonzalez
    deadhead= draw
    s21= Gonzalez
    Ph33rknot= Gonzalez
    MetalLicker= Gonzalez
    TigerDariusz= Gonzalez
    The Long Count= draw
    RacingBeat= Gonzalez
    NewBoxingOrder= Gonzalez
    Drew101= draw
    Tyson379= Rungvisai
    CHiko_Tech= Rungvisai
    Lordsouness= draw

    9 draws, 10 Rungvisai, 19 Gonzalez

    So according to that, you are wrong. Most people didn't score the fight for Rungvisai in the RBR. Gonzalez got nearly twice as many votes as Rungvisai in the RBR.
     
  7. Bah Lance

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    PAC took some rounds off, and Horn wrestled and pushed him around a bit. Other than that, Pac paint brushed his face at will. The fight was damn near stopped from the punishment Horn was taking.
     
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  8. Bah Lance

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    Are you serious? Lol. Round 9 was a massacre for Pac. Horn got his damn face beat in by repeated left hands. If you scored that for Horn...I'm at a loss.
     
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  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Glad I'm consistent though! Tsyzu got cheated and so did Pac. Straight facts.
     
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  10. Glassbrain

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    It was a close fight, Pacquiao took a lot of rounds off and allowed Horn to take them. In the rounds Pacquiao won, he dominated, however Horn was punching whilst Pacquiao was posing. I forget my scorecard, it will be on the rbr however it wasn't a robbery either way.
     
  11. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here's some of the more prominent posters scorecards from the RBR;

    A mixed bag, I was there but turns out I didn't score it. I didn't witness a robbery that night that's for sure, I feel Atlas was way off with his assessment and that tainted a deserved victory for Horn.
     
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  12. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    This thread has confirmed and made me feel even better about Horn winning and how i scored it with so many of the forums most knowledgeable posters and top RBR scorers either agreeing with the result or the obvious that it was a close fight that could have gone either way.
    It's no surprise to see on the opposite side so many of the sites biggest trolls throwing around all kinds of lies and insults about the result and towards anybody that dares not agree that it was a robbery and/or that Horn should have been DQ'd:risas3:,not to mention a laundry list of excuses and unfounded accusations of corruption leveled at the location,the ref and officials and originally also said that Horn only beat a shot version of Pacquio.
     
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  13. PistonHondai

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    We all know it was due to Horn's perfect record and the judges thinking Pacquiao was at the end of his career retiring soon anyway.
     
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  14. Alo2006

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    Facts!
     
  15. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    It is really quite simple, hometown fighter gets away with fouls in his hometown. So explain to us why it was okay for Horn to cheat and foul but not okay for Hatton to do the same?
     
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