Anyone Impressed with Schemling's Hand-Speed?

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    I don't know if there's video uploaded on Youtube but it's the 1st Knockdown on Louis by Schemling. He hits him with a big right, and then throws a very fast combo. Maybe it's mostly pitty-patty but it's such a quick short combo. Heavyweights just don't throw punches that fast anymore.
     
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    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Schmeling's right hand was a beauty as well.

    Short,fast,hard and accurate.I don't reckon it gets enough credit tbh.

    He must have landed about 50 of them on Louis before the KO in the first fight which for me settles the myth that Joe Loius had a poor chin.
     
  3. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Agree on all three counts. Louis may have been sluggish, but those lead rights were as quick as I've seen any Heavyweight throw them - perhaps as quick as Ali's.
     
  4. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was quick with his hands and he could put together combinations too although he rarely threw anything but the right hand, arguably the best right hand the heavyweight division has ever seen.
     
  5. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    It's probably underrated.

    You are right on all accounts. Louis was in proper condition to. Yet he took a beating. He had good durability. One shot could put him down but of all the times he almost always sprang right up. Just think about this knockdowns. His recovery should say something about his chin - it also note that most times he could have just been flashed knocked down. His chine was good.
     
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    That was probably the only single punch or combination that ever really put Louis on ***** street in his entire 70 fight career.

    Max Baer also said that Schmeling had him in trouble at one point but didn't realise.
     
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    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    From what film I have seen of him, Max Schmeling's hand speed does appear to be better than most heavyweights of his day, though old film can sometimes be deceiving. For all practical purposes, he was not by any means a " slow moving " fighter. He was very agile and could certainly move when he had to.. I think he was also one of the best technical heavyweights of all time, but that's only my opinion.
     
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    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have always been impressed with Max Schmeling's hand speed. Although operating from a different style, I have always been impressed with Floyd Patterson's hand speed, too.
     
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    Technical is probably the best word to sum up Schmeling's style.
     
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    iI don,t believe thatJoe Louis who was kod by Max Schmeling in 1936,lost because he took Schmeling LIGHTLY, and did not train hard...Nonsense...Louis just a few months before the Schmeling fight, Louis never looked better than when he kayoed Max Baer...Probably the truth was more like this...Schmeling, in 1936, was 31 years old, when he ko,d Louis ,at that timeProbably at his peak age...When they fought in 1938, Schmeling was past his peak,at 33 years of age... I am not suggesting that Louis was not the greater fighter, but ponder this...Reverse their age in 1938,making Louis 33 years old and Schmeling 24 years old....What then, would be the outcome?.
     
  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Well Patterson was arguably the fastest Heavyweight ever. And that's including Ali.
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    He was playing golf a lot. His son said he was ill prepared. And most think he was getting way too into the invincibility claims.
     
  13. Brian123

    Brian123 ESB WORLD CHAMPION Full Member

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    Max Schmeling's hand speed was better than most heavyweights then and now.
     
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    There's probably a lot of truth in that.
    But the flipside is that Schmeling was considered washed-up, and probably wasn't quite what he'd been 5 years earlier.
     
  15. Lobotomy

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    Where Schmeling's hand speed appears really stunning is when he takes Walker apart. Mickey previously took Sharkey to a draw, and Jack's hand speed was his own greatest asset. Because of that draw, I think Walker is actually an underrated win for Max. No other heavyweight ever did that to the Toy Bulldog, and even Mickey conceded that his very best may not have been good enough against this particular opponent.