Anyone picking AJ over Big Andy?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by POTUS, Nov 11, 2019.


AJ or Andy Ruiz

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  2. AR

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  1. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    I'm going by what I saw in the first fight. Ruiz has got one hell of a chin. He got knocked down, got up, ate a monster right and then proceeded to beat the living daylights out of Joshua. No one has ever traded punches with Joshua like Ruiz did.
     
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  2. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    He's more like Muesli Bar now.
     
  3. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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  4. Marco904

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    Granted, and Ruiz should get full credit for mixing it with AJ like no-one's ever dared to before. The firefight in the 3rd leading to Ruiz then AJ getting knocked down could have resulted in either getting KO'd in my opinion - both got knocked down, but Ruiz's shot was more effective due to where it was placed. No doubt Ruiz has the better chin, but there are no doubt places on Ruiz's head that will produce a knock-out if Joshua punches them hard enough. Joshua won't make the mistake of trading heavily with Ruiz this time, unless Ruiz is very hurt.
     
  5. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Yeah cuz I’m picking AJ. It’s a 50/50 shootout IMO regardless of what happened in the first fight.
     
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  6. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ has been looking slimmer. I'm betting big on AJ like 1000$ but bro it's the same in my book, this will be razor close imho
     
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  7. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    Interesting.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    If your assumption is correct (not saying it is not!), then it should be testable. So we'd have to find a good sample of fights which

    1. Were rematches with a clear win (so we weed out the very close decisions which basically could have gone either way)
    2. Real money bookmaker odds were in favor of not repeating the result of the first fight

    The data is out there, I just don't know where to get it. If your idea has merit then it would give you a massive advantage in betting under the above conditions.
     
  9. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is he good enough to do that tho. Ruiz covers the distance well when on the attack. I think joshua going on the run is asking for trouble. Became pretty apparent that joshua couldnt match ruiz,s boxing. Was scared to commit to his attacks then ended up throwing out half hearted jabs. If it doesnt work and ruiz can still tag him what happens next. I think it goes south quickly for him.

    Joshua needs a combination of things for me. I ve always thought joshua goes backwards too slowly. Hes like a truck going back. Ruiz puts his punches together and closes the gap pretty well on the attack. I dont think joshua has the tools on the backfoot. The quicker rob mcracken works out the best way to try to protect joshuas weakesses is playing to his strengths...the better. Getting him going forward and bashing opponents. Sitting back trying to hide his chin....is actually getting him hit more.
     
  10. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought AJ was a great finisher and a knockout artist, how is he going to cruise to a boring decision?
     
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  11. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    It will be a good fight, AJ will put up a better fight, but Andy Ruiz takes this one again, by late round stoppage.
     
  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    what? i dont think you understand sportsbooks.
     
  13. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I must admit that the odds are a little bit weird for the rematch. Why is AJ such a big (1/3) favorite? With these odds I would rather bet on Ruiz.
     
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  14. edabomb

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    Can you believe one judge actually had AJ up at the stoppage in the first fight? AJ also had a wide margin on two cards against Klit despite that being objectionably a close fight.

    AJ is a big chance. I don't think he can knock Ruiz out but if his knee doesn't touch the canvas for 12 rounds there is no way in hell he is losing. If he can get a referee to operate like in the Parker fight then he's a big favourite. I would say the oddmakers have a good idea that a ref with the same MO will be used.
     
  15. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ruiz is favourite to win for me hes done it once but I want AJ to win. Hopefully he can make the adjustments and his chin holds up