Anyone think Ortiz's size and strength Will be a problem??

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Mitch Green, Sep 16, 2011.

  1. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it's off topic but the guy in you avatar is Bulgarian :)
     
  2. Black2023

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    Thanks your right maybe abuse is the wrong word..its hard to come up with the right word all the time

    The main thing past experiences.

    Floyd can lose but it will be a diminished version as what we have seen before beats the best we have seen from ortiz.

    Floyd is a great fighter but he could be even better instead he has chosen a path of least resistence, cherry picking.

    Pacquaio with similar oppostion destroyed opponents that Mayweather didnt look to hot with, he won by 1 round against Oscar and had a though first 4 round with Hatton stopping him in then tenth.

    Whilst Pac won ever round against Oscar and Hatton.

    Since though Pac lost a step you can tell in fights with Margarito and Mosley.

    Anyhow, For Floyd to seriously lose, it would only be to Pac and S. Martinez at the moment..guys that you would expect he could face.


    Khan
    Berto
    Margarito
    Cotto
    Ortiz


    Good fighters but all have areas that Floyd could easily dominate over.
     
  3. Black2023

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    Whipped suggests he got dominated...Mayweather won but by a round for me much like Calazghe won by 1 round against Hopkins therefore i would not say whipped.


    Again part of the Floyd Hype is the statistical numbers that strike out at you....41-0 and never officially knockdown. Over the years he has added a list of impressive names. His style of hit and not being hit is 100 years of boxing manipulation at its best. Although lacking is his finishing which in real terms he should strive for as any fighter to my imagination does not need someone ( a jduge) to tell him he won....the result should speak for itself.....like no questions asked when Tyson knocked out Spinks.

    Along with the manifestation of paper weights in the last 100 years of boxing, we can now call him a 5 weight champion.

    In reality when we look at human beings we dont say he a super-heavy or he is a straw weight. The definition is rather simple and normally kept to simple large, medium and small.


    Of course having a say 120 pound fighter fighting say a 160 pound fighter would be unfair. But having weights separations of 5 pounds, 2 pounds even 10 pounds is laughable.

    Each weight should be clear and concise, in fact weight jumping should not exsist only really happen on rare occasions.

    We all know Pac at 5'6 with his bone structure will never fight at heavyweight but maybe if the promoters, manager, organisations didnt dilute boxing with thousands of divisions maybe in the real world Pac and Floyd would be two weight champs instead of 20 weight champs (joking).

    People were amazed that Ortiz went from 140 to 147 and won, but its not amazing as they are the same size guys.

    Khan is the same as Floyd and the same as Cotto who is in the 154. In reality all these men should be in the same weight division.

    10 Pounds is nothing, people vary from 1 to 5 pounds in one day,


    210 + Heavyweight

    190-210 - Light-Heavyweight

    175-190 - Middleweight

    160-175 - Welterweight

    145-160 - Lightweight

    130-145 - Featherweight

    130 - - Minimum weight


    The top 10 in the featherweight division could look like this-
    F. Mayweather
    M. Pacquaio
    M. Cotto
    Margarito
    A. Khan
    T. Bradley
    A. Berto
    V. Ortiz
    S. Mosley
    L. Peterson


    The very definition of champion would be more, to become champion would be much harder. Does anyone think Bradley would be a champion of boxing was not so diluted?
     
  4. StreetsofRAGE

    StreetsofRAGE Ballin Full Member

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    Ortiz is barely bigger than Floyd. Ortiz will present some problems in this fight but Floyd will solve them.
     
  5. W1LLPARK3R

    W1LLPARK3R Well-Known Member Full Member

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    we can only hope. who wants to see Floyd's eye's light up like slot machines when he gets tagged by ortiz? (raise hands)