"Anyone would've been KOed by that shot"

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  1. Leif Erikson

    Leif Erikson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This has to be one of my pet hates when discussing boxing.

    First of all, it's a preposterous statement, and is instantly proven false by looking at any number of clips, not least of Ernie Shavers decking Larry Holmes with a BRUTAL blow, from which the latter recovered to win the contest. It seems that whenever someone is laid out nowadays, we get the 'ANYONE would've been knocked out by that' line. It's just absurd, it flies in the face of logic and reason.

    Take Amir Khan's defeat to Breidis Prescott, for instance - Now, I hope Khan continues to do well, but on that night he failed MISERABLY to take punches other Prescott opponents have comfortably survived. Then there's Pacquiao - Hatton. Great punch, but Manny isn't in the habit of scoring one punch KOs of late and Ricky Hatton was KOed heavily by Floyd Mayweather and hurt badly by Juan Lazcano. Rather than suggest that Pacquiao - who lands MANY flush shots on whoever he fights, thanks to his ability - was loaned power above his station for that bout, the evidence suggests that Hatton simply didn't take a good punch in the latter stages of his career.

    There exists no 'catch-all' punch which would KO any fighter. It's simply not logical, it's not based in reality and such talk from people who should know better really ought to stop.
     
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  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I honestly think that no fighter in history at 140 could take the punch Pac landed on Hatton and beat a 10-count. I don't think Pac would land that punch more than once in his entire career anyways, but I'm just saying, he put a whole lot of weight into that punch and Hatton was going INTO it. And to top it off, it hit right on the tip of the chin.

    It doesn't necessarily make every fighter in history look like they shat their pants the way it did to Hatton, but I don't think anyone beats a 10-count and is allowed to continue fighting.

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    then again, maybe you're right. There's no way to know for sure.
     
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  3. Thread Stealer

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    One of the things I always think of when I hear that phrase is that not anyone would've been caught by that sort of shot in the first place. Perfect placement and timing, or the guy is getting sloppy and totally leaves himself open.

    I'm not sure how some other middleweights would react to this shot, but what are the chances of Jackson landing this kind of perfect shot on say, Robinson, Hagler, Hopkins, or LaMotta in the first place?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhVi7cH-LaQ&fmt=18[/ame]
     
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  4. Philphy Rich

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    I think you're wrong.

    Looks very much a case of Fattons punch resistance being gone played a big role in it
     
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  5. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzzYlMfkbJ4[/ame]


    Shane Mosley would of taken it.

    Look at the bombs, Vernon hit him with......starting at 6min07sec mark approx..
     
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  6. Brian123

    Brian123 ESB WORLD CHAMPION Full Member

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    Good point on Pacman's punch it was at least one of the top shots ever landed in history.
     
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  7. Da Chin Chekka

    Da Chin Chekka Chi-Town!!! Full Member

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    Well said my man well said...:thumbsup
     
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  8. VecArrow

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    If that idiot didn't run in there with his mouth open he could of probably taken it.
     
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  9. futonrevolution

    futonrevolution Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're absolutely right, of course.

    There's two people involved with every punch.

    Unless....
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABF-0k7b4hg[/ame]
     
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  10. Da Chin Chekka

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  11. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Active Member Full Member

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    Dude, the Hawk did that to EVERYONE except the Body Snatcher, Mike McCallum. I remember when Jackson fought Terrible Terry Norris... Norris was in that ass hard and then BAM!!!, one punch and Norris was OUT COLD! Julian Jackson was probably the most vicious puncher in boxing history and could stretch you without even hitting you square on the button.
     
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  12. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Active Member Full Member

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    DAAAAAAAMMMMMMNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!! :yikes Shane took BOMBS! I forgot how vicious that ass whoopin was. No one can sleep on SSM's chin. The Viper was a beast, would have been an ATG if not for the injury. RIP.
     
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  13. Thread Stealer

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    Norris somehow beat the count. Cortez stopped it because Norris was too hurt but he wasn't out cold like Graham, Milton, and Del Toro were. Milton did the "my arms are out in the air" stretch.

    More than just about anyone, Jackson makes me think "that punch would've knocked out anyone". But I doubt other guys would've been hit with those sort of shots anyway.
     
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  14. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Active Member Full Member

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    To say he wasn't out cold is being semantical:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Id6-oOY1U[/ame]


    He may have gotten up but it was sheer instinct. He was "out" in almost every sense of the word. He just wasn't smart enough to stay down.:verysad
     
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  15. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    that's not the julian jackson who fought hopkins is it?
     
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