Apart from Klitschko, will Tyson Fury be the best HW Haye has faced ?

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  1. Unforgiven

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    Tyson Fury, an up-and-coming 25 year-old fighter, unbeaten, improving.

    He's a bit better than Chisora, or is he not ?

    How does he compare with ....
    38-year-old John Ruiz, 37-year-old Monte Barrett, 36-year-old Nicolay Valuev, 39-year-old Audley Harrison ???
    Tomasz Bonin ??

    Is Fury possibly better than all those beasts and world-beaters ?
    Sorry if I'm forgetting some better HWs Haye's beat, feel free to expand the debate by mentioning them.
     
  2. Geraldinho

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    Yes he is better. Still think Haye will beat him though.
     
  3. sharpy

    sharpy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes but chins a real issue I can't see fury taking some of the shots chisora survived before the ko
     
  4. Rhodesie9

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    no,I think Chisora is better.I think when Derek has his proper head on......Helenius,Klit, Haye he is top notch...when he can't be bothered he is poor.
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    Is his chin really that much of an issue ? And with his height he doesn't have to take as many shots. Of course, he might get KO'd early but I think his chin isn't as weak as people are claiming. Or at least we don't know yet.
    I think his defence is the issue. He's careless. Just a bit amateurish.

    I'm amazed if Tyson Fury's the best HW Haye has faced outside of Wlad.
    I mean, if that's true, what does it say about Haye and his reputation ?
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    How can you tell if he 'had his head on' for Haye ?
     
  7. TERRYTIBBS

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    On paper yes because Ruiz was over the hill, and Fury beat Chisora pretty easily.
     
  8. TED 822

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    He is for me,definitely the best Davids faced apart from Wlad.He wasn't really in the fight against the latter,though he did well to go the distance.A lot couldn't.What is Fury,26?Hes been fairly active,as far as I know has plenty of ambition,and has got up so far when put down.Lets not underestimate Cunningham.Did he not stop Huck,who gave Povetkin an argument?I think he's a better chance of taking Hayes punch than David has of shrugging off the kind of punch he hit USS with.I reckon this is 50 50,but Ive got a slight feeling Fury could pull this off.
     
  9. Robney

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    Nah SNV was more dangerous and more accomplished.

    It's not for nothing Haye used the RBR approach and barely got away with a decision, wich wasn't even expected when the fight was over because it was very close on the impartial boxfans cards.
    He is the #3 out of the list however, and pretty close after Valuev.

    Haye TKO5 (multiple KD's)
     
  10. Ade_Lad

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    Fury absolutely schooled Chisora. An plz don't say that Chisora was fat and unfit blah blah. I had Fury winning 10-2 on rounds and after that Chisora went on to give Vitali a decent fight.
     
  11. Rhodesie9

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    Yes he did but he admits he wasn't up for the Furey fight ,how do you know he was up for Haye? Like Helenius and Klit fights he was a different lad to the one who turned up against Furey......hey lads I'm no apologist for Chisora like all these lads....but I suspect on the right night in the right frame of mind he could win a big title.But it's only an opinion so don't hold me to it:roll:
     
  12. madg321

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    Fury is the best haye has faced.

    End of.

    And as for haye I feel he is overrated by a long way talented but there a handful of he I feel would Gove him problems.

    Reality of this scenario is haye is perfect style to give fury problems the right size with his best punch being ffurys weak spot
     
  13. Manning

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  14. Furey

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    No knock to Fury here, but that wasn't the same Chisora who showed up for Vitali. The version that faced Fury was out of shape and didn't have his head screwed on during preparations, his own fault really.
     
  15. Manning

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    Fury himself was terribly out of shape and his own head fcuked (more than usual) too. People tend to ignore that part of Fury's easy win.