apart from oscar who is the biggest draw in boxing??

So basically you're speculating that Calzaghe's only crowd is at home. All I know is when people flock to see you, in the thirties of thousands, that's a draw.

 

DLH is pretty unknown outside US...only the likes of Mike Tyson, SRL's were really worldwide stars.

 

trinidad's supposed to be coming back, he's always been a draw through out his career. among guys 135 down i'd say pac has been drawing good money lately. cotto in a years time could become a draw like tito. wlad is apparently a god in germany and elsewhere in europe. and hatton with his rabid fan base draws in good money.

 

It's Floyd. I know people hate him, but nobody besides Oscar nobody does better ppv numbers, and no one is more well known to casual fans. I'm seeing names like Cotto, Hatton, and Pac, but I just don't see it. Cotto's last fight filled up the Garden, but it was on the eve of the Puerto Rican day parade, and Top Rank wouldn't even release the ppv numbers(I bet the fight barely cracked the 200,00 buy mark). People talk about 10,000 Brits traveling to see Ricky fight in the Vegas. That just means no one here wanted to see him fight. Pac does good numbers, but he fights at 130. That means alot of casual fans aren't familiar with him. Face it, most boxers have only regional appeal, Oscar has mainstream appeal, and Floyd is in between.

 

b/c Taylor isnt a big draw, I never said that. I agree there. Ok so lets make a hypothetical scenerio. If i decided to turn pro 2morrow and sold out Nassau Colisseum, which is like 10mins from my neighborhood, and continued to sell it out without fighting anywhere else. Does that classify me as a big draw?

 

Until I see someone else fill an arena overseas with their own fans, I'm saying HATTON.

 

Mosely had a shitty attendance in his fight against Collazo

 

Pac can Draw anywhere, He needs to be known by the Casual Fans though to increase his PPV sale. But that is coming, Top Rank & Golden Boy peace accord is coming. Now they can make the fights that will make Pac a Global star. The only way Pac to reach near DLH status is if he moved up in weight & beat the likes of Hatton & PBF.

 

If he cleans the division of the top stars it'll work (Marquez, Guzman, Valero, Barrios, Juarez, Soto, Barerra again, maybe John) Mainly the first 2 and Soto.....

He has a crowd pleasing style... he just needs to be in there with the "Best"...

 

biggest draws at the moment in terms of people actually watching and attending the fights combined are fighters like paq /klitchko`s /some obscure japanese fighters get both huge attendences and massive tv audiences all by dint of being on free to air tv.

when millions and millions watch your fights you are a bigger draw than any fighter who fights to an exclusive ppv tv audience.

american fighters are hampered by the fact that a lot of big fights take place in the middle of a desert, because casino`s pay the ground rent, whereas if american boxing was taken to the regions and the boxers a;lways boxed out of there hometown and on say NBC etc etc then of course that particular boxer if succesfull would be america`s biggest draw boxer.

not going to happen though as promotors and fighters look at money and not legacy .

for example ricky hatton last fight could have been aired on the bbc even on delay it would have been watched by 10 million or so if they showed it 7pm sunday night or so, yet hatton chose to sell his tv rights to an irish PPV sattelite station where the audience share would have been 500,000 or so (guess) .

if boxers and boxing wants to be a draw then a way must be found to air boxing on free to air tv.

germany does this and boxing gets 10 million plus i beleive audiences every 2 weeks or so.

 

PAC... then theres Cotto hes on the brink of stardom

 

Still the old standbys. Riding the wave of past fame are Oscar, Roy Jones, Trinidad & Gatti. Still big names in the eyes of Joe Public. Sadly, lump Tyson into that pile as well. PPV numbers would be higher for Tyson v. Klitschko than any other living heavyweight opponent right now. That's undisputable.

There are a handful of fighters right now that could bring boxing back to the masses if there were anyone in the sport with ANY sense of marketing knowledge. Pacquiao, Cotto, Kessler, even Wlad are all guys that could be larger than life if given a push.

 

IMO Floyd & Pac are head to head. Notable PPV buys

Pac vs Solis did 200k. That is a none title fight, with no promotion(well no big one anyways) and Solis a guy nobody has heard of.

PBF vs Baldomir did 325k. That is with bigger promotion and for the undisputed WW title.

PBF vs Gatti did 360k and PBF vs Judah did 350k.

Pac vs Morales 2 did 350k & 3rd fight did 355k ppv buys being the highest grossing LW bout in PPV history as well as the 3rd ever biggest livegate attendance in vegas.

Cotto vs Judah did 225k.

Barrera vs Juarez did something like 125k.

Considering Pac hasnt even touched on the american public yet as his english is not very good and is drawing these numbers AWAY from home, I think he is the bigger draw. I mean lets see who can draw bigger numbers in Asia...

 

Yeah, believe it or not, Spinks is one of the top ticket sellers in Boxing. As ridiculous as that sounds, when he fights in St. Louis, he does big numbers. Spinks-Judah II had almost 21,000 in attendance. Spinks-Karmazin put up pretty good numbers too, considering Karmazin was an unknown and there was no strong co-feature.

 

Pac is up there, but he's not quite there. I noticed you left off the Oscar and Floyd numbers. Pac may have been involved in the biggest lw bout in boxing, but Floyd was involved in the biggest fight period in boxing. Yeah Oscar had alot to do with it, but Morales had alot to do with the numbers for the Pac fight.