Apart from the Ottke temple shot

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kel, Jul 13, 2008.


  1. Machine

    Machine Active Member Full Member

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    :good Look, I can see you're a little bit sensitive about issues relating to Mundine but the point I was making was that, yes, he has been hurt by several guys other than Svenie feather-fists. But more importantly the point is that having suffered one of the most humilating KOs in recent boxing history, he can never fully redeem himself. I find it baffling that you think that is stating the obvious as I would have assumed that you believe he could redeem himself.
     
  2. Marcus

    Marcus Boxing Junkie banned

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    i think his chin is ok, it doesnt get tested too many time but. look at the guys his been fighting lately, not many big punches. might tell u how his team feels about it. i dont think Crazy is the Ko king his record says he is.
    and with choc i dont even know what weight class to talk about him fighting......... his a ****in clown who has wasted his gifts.
     
  3. Kegsy

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    Crazy Kim was KO'ing guys mostly at Junior Middle.
    He wont have much power at all up at Light Heavy...
     
  4. toppity

    toppity hhhhhmmmmm........... Full Member

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    according to his record he has been down three times. None more resounding that being KTFO by Ottke. His chin has to be described as suspect. Doesn't reflect on his ability though
     
  5. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Isn't the fight at 160?
     
  6. Kegsy

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    From wat i have been told its at Super Middle or Light Heavy definitely not Middle.
     
  7. kflex101

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    I really think he has proved himself since and we can put the Ottke experience down to a combination of luck (on Ottke's part), fatigue, and complete inexperience on Mundines.
    The telling factor I am concerned about though is the mental damage it may always reap. Against big hitters he may always fight tentatively and never let his hands go - which we have seen twice now against Kessler and Siaca.
    He did well against Green, though I think he became extremely confident once he realised how predictable Green was on that night.
    If he could bring this kind of attitude into a Pavlik fight and maintain it, he could well end up embarresing Kelly - I'm not holding my breath though.
     
  8. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't really know how you could say it was luck?! It was a decent short right hand that landed sweetly on the temple.
     
  9. kflex101

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    Well, the truth is that there is no such thing as luck, what I mean is that it was a few unique circumstances that occured at the same time - the factors of inexperience anmd fatigue are big players.

    He has definitely been hit a lot harder since and withstood those shots without issue.
     
  10. Hmmm

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    Maybe you've overlooked the fact that virtually nobody in this thread is synchronised with your opinion that the Ottke KO "makes his chin suspect forever period... bla bla bla"...

    but i'll let that slip.

    Nobody is saying he wasn't knocked out you dumbarse. Judging his chin by that KO for the rest of his career is what is in dispute here. If you feel that you can judge him on that basis then you must surely think Darchinyans chin is suspect forever as he was KO'd by that tysonesque Donaire, and Katsidis chin is suspect forever as that brute Graham Earl floored him... otherwise you are a hypocrite.
     
  11. sallywinder

    sallywinder Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    mundine is a title contender for the worst chin in boxing......but no one can hit it clean to find out if hes the champ.....
     
  12. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wasn't going to get involved in this cause it's sooooo done to death. Until Anthony stands and trades willingly, his chin will be somewhat suspect. He's a great defensive fighter, but when he gets caught he can be hurt/dropped.

    I don't really think that the Darchinyan example is that accurate, because Donaire can whack. Without looking at boxrec, in 20 odd fights I think he's had around 12 or 13 stoppages. The latest against the world class Maldonado. Katsidis' chin probably is suspect at a world class level at this point in time. However, like Anthony, he's fought a big puncher (Ganoy/Kessler) and survived. Jury is probably still out I guess.
     
  13. sallywinder

    sallywinder Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    youre up late ippy....you watchig the dow too?
     
  14. ipswich express

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    Night work tomorrow (today) mate. Getting into the rhythm I guess mate.
     
  15. sallywinder

    sallywinder Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cold time of year for night work ippy. lookin forward to summer eh?