Apparently the "TRUTH HURTS"... Atlas goes Rogue

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by UpperCut2, Jan 12, 2010.


  1. UpperCut2

    UpperCut2 Active Member Full Member

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    I guess the other thread was taken down because of copyright infringement. The discussion was not illegal, so lets keep it going. Someone earlier asked, "Who is G. Leon?" In case no one has already provided this info. He is one of the MOST respected young professionals within the boxing industries. He is the founding editor of the another boxing site (name deleted). Fighters, promoters and most writers (except Raphael) respect and admire him. He's usually non biased unless you've gone out of you way to disrespect him or done something he regards as senseless. He's very outspoken about trying to ensure that the PUBLIC gets the fights it wants to see. In this case, he's on record as believing that Floyd should've made his demands in private (to allow Manny's camp the opportunity to negotiate this issue in private). Teddy spoke to him due to a mutual respect, but didn't pull any punches. I thought it was a good interview without Greg Leon allow his own biases get in the way of Teddy Atlas spilling his guts, (which he did). Only myopic Pac fans will see this as bogus. Atlas has no issue with either fighter, he's simply providing his opinion. If you didn't see his Friday Night Fights interview, go watch it carefully and listen to his comments, then come back and speak your mind. He simply reported what he'd been told. Since Arum is demanding an apology, he stated who his source was, who they work for and who Arum's beef really should be with.
    To all of those talking about emails being manufactured, while this IS possiible, it is FAR TO EASY to disprove (as many of other posters have stated). Atlas also spoke to this issue. The PAC team is filled with his BOYS, not a team of professionals. Someone could've done this without any authorization.
    To those who scoff at the request for testing. I say your a bunch of hypocrites. For all other PED related issues, you've probably been on the other side. The ringmaster who has already answered every question related to PED manufacturing, testing, scheduling, masking agents, and techniques is Victor Conte of BALCO fame. They kept intricate records, calendars, etc... to track their athletes. This enabled them to stay a few steps ahead of the game. I have 28 years experience in the pharmacuetical industry and am fully qualified to make the following statement. Those who want an edge, can always find one because there is more funding for R & D than there will ever be for counter intelligence in this arena. There are everyday medications that athlete's use as PED's that aren't even tested for. Also, every sport has different standards for testing. This fact favors Mayweather's request to utilize Olympic standard testing.
    PAC's moving timetable for testing and outright defiance regarding testing is what makes me wonder. There is no medical evidence that supports his claims of adverse effects based on the timetables presented. Hell, the American Red Cross removes a pint of blood, provides you with a cookie and juice, then sends you on your merry way. Fourteen days is more than enough time to recoup for fight night. In contrast, PAC's own strategy of this "catchweight" nonsense provides him with a distinct advantage over his supposedly larger opponents. Depleting one's body of all life sustaining nutrients and fluids to make weight while your opponent is eating the most nutritional meals on the planet because he's has weight he can gain is a distinct advantage for Pacquiao.
    Finally, Mayweather has every right to request that his opponent be CLEAN and the playing field be level. Boxing is a brutal sport. Your very LIFE is at risk everytime the bell rings for Round 1. I ask that all boxing fans take your personal likes and dislikes out of the equation and use your minds. As Teddy Atlas puts it, who would walk away from 30+ MILLION DOLLARS for a syringe full of blood. No one except Manny Pacquiao...
     
  2. lfc18titles

    lfc18titles Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Paragraphs are your friend.
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    G Leon is not very respected. Alot of his scoops turn out flat out false and everyone knows it.
     
  4. Chris85

    Chris85 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not reading that
     
  5. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    holly ****... yes PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!:good
     
  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I just don't see Atlas lying about this...WHY WOULD HE? HE HAS NOTHING TO GAIN AND ON TOP OF THAT I DONT THINK HE IS MUCH OF A FAN OF FLOYD...AGAIN...IF WHAT HE IS CLAIMING IS TRUE THAN MANNY IS ON THE JUICE...PERIOD...END OF STORY..

    I hope nobody makes excuses for Pac's juicing now
     
  7. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    It wasn't taken down. It's just further down the page.
     
  8. darthhutchence

    darthhutchence Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry I'm already in the middle of a book.:hat
     
  9. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    at this point.. who cares anymore? If it proven then its proven... if they are going to claim "sources" but not reveil the sources or the actuall emails... then its all speculation and talk at this point. Kinda like all the accusations since this started... not piece of evidence.. NOT ONE!!
     
  10. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  11. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No :lol:
     
  12. BOSTONREDSOX

    BOSTONREDSOX The Ghost Full Member

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    teddy atlas is an ass and always has been.i mean hunting down donnie lalong and going to his house with a gun to kill him and coming out and saying this is what he did the guy is a fruit loop :nut
     
  13. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    mannys on roids and floyds a *****...why cant people just leave it at that?
     
  14. UpperCut2

    UpperCut2 Active Member Full Member

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    Too many small minded individuals for a decent conversation. No comment on content which actually speaks volumes. Paragraphs were put in you moron, they simply didn't translate when the submit button was clicked. If you can't see that, LensCrafters closes @ 9p.m.
     
  15. UpperCut2

    UpperCut2 Active Member Full Member

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    The site wouldn't be successful if he wasn't. All the content and interviews wouldn't be made available to him it he were not. The FACTS speak for themselves. Did he blast you in a response to an email from the mailbag or something???