Apparently the "TRUTH HURTS"... Atlas goes Rogue

CHEF · Jan 13, 2010

UpperCut2 said: ↑

You guys are amazing. For the record, I'm not Greg Leon. He'd do a far better job defending himself, so I won't even try. But I will say this much. You all comment on a boxing website, He actually OWNS a very successful one. People actually answer the phone when he's calling. He's got his, apparently none of you have yours, so until you do stop hating, it's very unbecoming...
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UpperCut2 · Jan 13, 2010

elTerrible said: ↑

Thats a lot of effort and a good post but *******s dont like logic so I am afraid you wont get through to them.
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Now you tell me ! Thanks though...

UpperCut2 · Jan 13, 2010

CHEF said: ↑

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So this is what you've been doing since South Park killed you off. I see why you died. Now stay that way before I put a stake through your heart...

UpperCut2 · Jan 13, 2010

thesmokingm said: ↑

atsch

You should stick to the fiction because obviously you are too butrhurt to do non-fiction.
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Did you make it in time? Tell you what, keep fu**ing around and I'll put all your business in here. This isn't the only site you and yours frequent now is it??? By the way, last we spoke ( your girl and I), she explained why she's seeks out other people for pleasure. It happens to be the same reason you simply bash people in here. Your a jackass who tries to over compensate for that little mushroom cap you call a dick. Remember, the more you act like an idiot on the internet, your chances increase that you run into someone who knows you. The old neighborhood would get a kick out of the trash I could display on your dumb ass...:bbb

Pimp C · Jan 13, 2010

Pac is a cheat and Atlas blasted him.

wuzupman · Jan 13, 2010

doomeddisciple said: ↑

Manny agreed to test 24 days prior and immediately after the fight.

Why did Floyd walk away from 30 million dollars? I think he needs it more than Manny does right now.
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he could still juice because it has a cut off date. Pac can get the steroid out of his system before the 24th, random, pac can't get away with it, that is why pac walked away from 30 mil, dumb ass, pac's ass sniffer, double cheek kisser.

elured · Jan 13, 2010

doomeddisciple said: ↑

G Leon respected? Remember where you read it first!!!
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funny

thesmokingm · Jan 13, 2010

UpperCut2 said: ↑

Did you make it in time? Tell you what, keep fu**ing around and I'll put all your business in here. This isn't the only site you and yours frequent now is it??? By the way, last we spoke ( your girl and I), she explained why she's seeks out other people for pleasure. It happens to be the same reason you simply bash people in here. Your a jackass who tries to over compensate for that little mushroom cap you call a dick. Remember, the more you act like an idiot on the internet, your chances increase that you run into someone who knows you. The old neighborhood would get a kick out of the trash I could display on your dumb ass...:bbb
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Whose bashing who here? You say you know me and all this ****. Why don't come over to my house tough guy? Ohh you're so scary with your mean words. GFTO *****, everyone is laughing at you.

schuey100 · Jan 13, 2010

UpperCut2 said: ↑

I guess the other thread was taken down because of copyright infringement. The discussion was not illegal, so lets keep it going.

Someone earlier asked, "Who is G. Leon?" In case no one has already provided this info. He is one of the MOST respected young professionals within the boxing industries. He is the founding editor of the another boxing site (name deleted). Fighters, promoters and most writers (except Raphael) respect and admire him. He's usually non biased unless you've gone out of you way to disrespect him or done something he regards as senseless. He's very outspoken about trying to ensure that the PUBLIC gets the fights it wants to see. In this case, he's on record as believing that Floyd should've made his demands in private (to allow Manny's camp the opportunity to negotiate this issue in private).

Teddy spoke to him due to a mutual respect, but didn't pull any punches. I thought it was a good interview without Greg Leon allow his own biases get in the way of Teddy Atlas spilling his guts, (which he did). Only myopic Pac fans will see this as bogus. Atlas has no issue with either fighter, he's simply providing his opinion. If you didn't see his Friday Night Fights interview, go watch it carefully and listen to his comments, then come back and speak your mind. He simply reported what he'd been told. Since Arum is demanding an apology, he stated who his source was, who they work for and who Arum's beef really should be with.

To all of those talking about emails being manufactured, while this IS possiible, it is FAR TO EASY to disprove (as many of other posters have stated). Atlas also spoke to this issue. The PAC team is filled with his BOYS, not a team of professionals. Someone could've done this without any authorization.

To those who scoff at the request for testing. I say your a bunch of hypocrites. For all other PED related issues, you've probably been on the other side. The ringmaster who has already answered every question related to PED manufacturing, testing, scheduling, masking agents, and techniques is Victor Conte of BALCO fame. They kept intricate records, calendars, etc... to track their athletes. This enabled them to stay a few steps ahead of the game. I have 28 years experience in the pharmacuetical industry and am fully qualified to make the following statement. Those who want an edge, can always find one because there is more funding for R & D than there will ever be for counter intelligence in this arena. There are everyday medications that athlete's use as PED's that aren't even tested for. Also, every sport has different standards for testing. This fact favors Mayweather's request to utilize Olympic standard testing.

PAC's moving timetable for testing and outright defiance regarding testing is what makes me wonder. There is no medical evidence that supports his claims of adverse effects based on the timetables presented. Hell, the American Red Cross removes a pint of blood, provides you with a cookie and juice, then sends you on your merry way. Fourteen days is more than enough time to recoup for fight night. In contrast, PAC's own strategy of this "catchweight" nonsense provides him with a distinct advantage over his supposedly larger opponents. Depleting one's body of all life sustaining nutrients and fluids to make weight while your opponent is eating the most nutritional meals on the planet because he's has weight he can gain is a distinct advantage for Pacquiao.

Finally, Mayweather has every right to request that his opponent be CLEAN and the playing field be level. Boxing is a brutal sport. Your very LIFE is at risk everytime the bell rings for Round 1. I ask that all boxing fans take your personal likes and dislikes out of the equation and use your minds. As Teddy Atlas puts it, who would walk away from 30+ MILLION DOLLARS for a syringe full of blood. No one except Manny Pacquiao...
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That's a bit better

brickfists · Jan 13, 2010

sdsfinest22 said: ↑

I just don't see Atlas lying about this...WHY WOULD HE? HE HAS NOTHING TO GAIN AND ON TOP OF THAT I DONT THINK HE IS MUCH OF A FAN OF FLOYD...AGAIN...IF WHAT HE IS CLAIMING IS TRUE THAN MANNY IS ON THE JUICE...PERIOD...END OF STORY..

I hope nobody makes excuses for Pac's juicing now
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he didnt lie he just talked a whole load of bull****, he said i hav a source who i trust but i cant name tell me he saw an email that was reportedly sent from the pac camp

which goes to show atlas is a ****ing dickhead why would he talk **** like that on national tv if he only heard about an email and didnt actually see it himself ?

UpperCut2 · Jan 13, 2010

thesmokingm said: ↑

Whose bashing who here? You say you know me and all this ****. Why don't come over to my house tough guy? Ohh you're so scary with your mean words. GFTO *****, everyone is laughing at you.
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Been there already plenty, you know this. If you have any doubts, ask her, or perhaps I should just describe your DECOR...:think

thesmokingm · Jan 13, 2010

UpperCut2 said: ↑

Been there already plenty, you know this. If you have any doubts, ask her, or perhaps I should just describe your DECOR...:think
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You're a lil internet *****. You got your panties twisted because everyone on the site was giving you **** for your G. Leon crap. Now you're gonna try and start some internet tough guy fight with me because everyone's laughing at you? That's a ***** move.

UpperCut2 · Jan 13, 2010

thesmokingm said: ↑

You're a lil internet *****. You got your panties twisted because everyone on the site was giving you **** for your G. Leon crap. Now you're gonna try and start some internet tough guy fight with me because everyone's laughing at you? That's a ***** move.
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This is because you're an idiot and it's about time everyone outside your lil world knew. Those that matter are actually laughing at you partner. Next time she's not in the mood, don't catch her while she's sleeping, just remember that somebody beat you to it, AGAIN...:bbb

elTerrible · Jan 13, 2010

empiricix said: ↑

Therein lies the contradiction in Pac's accusers. If Pacquiao's people consist of "dumbBOYS", then how can they be smart enough to be getting away with using super-duper smart PEDs that Olympic hopefuls would kill for?
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*******s are pacs ridiculously loyal fans, the ones that think he does no wrong. You are one of them. I am not talking about his training camp. And that doesnt make sense anyways, why would the thread starter be speaking to pac's camp? See youre ******ed. The thread is obviously directed at *******s which is you.

Starched Him · Jan 13, 2010

Farmboxer said: ↑

I read that Titty At-l-ASS and a guy named Smith, Tim? was on a payroll.

Notice that At-l-ASS said that he would not give out the source, but he heard that, this and that? Bullcrap. I have a bridge I will sell you!
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Man just shut the **** up. You ride pac too hard you bout to break the man hips. Pac is cool and all but for 1 minute if you think a man **** dont stink all these years pac had a squeaky clean image now all of a sudden he gets exposed and you acting all shicked like a delusional wife that dont beleive that 3 am call from the mistress airin out the dirty laundry. No man is innocent and all have something to hide. Pac is not exempt. **** is looking kinda gay on your part some of you care about men too much. Yall probaly had better luck in life if yall had the same passion for your relegion instead creating 1 following a druggy boxer man just shut the **** up seriously. Face it Everybody **** stink

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