Appreciation of Frank Paddy Slavin

Ahh, the myth lives on then! atsch

 

What is also interesting and, confirms what I have allways said is that Slavin states Jackson was in the first stages of TB in 1898 when they had an exhibition,,an exhibition in which Slavin says he could easily have stopped Jackson ,so far gone was he. 1898 is the year Jackson faced Jeffries and, makes of mockery of claims that Jackson had , " recovered his form by one poster".

 

Great stuff.

 

Do you even know what the first stage of TB was?!

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The second stage of TB, called "Dormant TB" or "Sleeping TB", occurs when germs remain in the body and may be wide spread, but seem to have no effect on the health of their host.


Finally, a third stage of TB may develop when this dormant infection "wakes up" and causes sores in the lungs and other parts of the body. This third stage is referred to as "Active TB".


If Peter Jackson was only in the 1st stage of TB, he's ok. Once again, detailed reports leading up to the fight said Jackson was in shape and had regained his form.

Hope you learned something today.

http://www.lung.ca/tb/abouttb/pulmonary/

 

The Jackson vs. Slavin fight is a good read.

 

Jackson was perceived as having declined while he was still in England, six years earlier.
Jackson was an alcoholic when he left the UK, prior to the Jeffries fight he had 6rds in a no dec with a nobody, 3 years earlier, one wonders how his form could be assessed from that?:huh
Slavin and Jackson's sparring partner both confirmed that Jackson was ill ,alcoholic and, in the early stages of TB.
Since Jackson died from TB , 3 years later ,I don't think there was any danger of his illness being passed off as cold ,or flu.
There are several types of TB ,or so my partner informs me,[she runs a medical practice,] and they may affect the lungs,spine, kidneys and, the brain.
Your qualifications for giving a treatise on TB are less than convincing ,especially as you once tried to tell this forum that Tommy Burns was suffering from Jaundice when he fought Jack Johnson.
I learn things most days , as I have an open mind on subjects.
I recommend it.

 

This is pretty funny.:goodI didn't realise you had a sense of humour.


Tuberculosis, also known as “consumption,” “phthisis,” or the “white plague,” was the cause of more deaths in industrialized countries than any other disease during the 19th and early 20th centuries. By the late 19th century, 70 to 90% of the urban populations of Europe and North America were infected with the TB bacillus, and about 80% of those individuals who developed active tuberculosis died of it.

 

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I think I may know more about TB than you, two in my family died of it ,and it was still very much around when I was a kid, I was vaccinated against it at the age of 11.
TB has several forms, with strains resistant to drugs,[ MDR/TB ,] now established but in the 1800/ 1900's it was usually lethal with an 80% mortality rate.



I take news people's remarks with a pinch of salt, they said Jim Jeffries was in the shape of his life , as good as he ever was, headlines proclaiming," Jim Jeffries Has Come Back ", trumpeted a false dawn when he challenged Johnson.
I prefer to believe the men who sparred with him, Frank Slavin who had the advantage of having fought him when Jackson was prime and, his chief sparring partner who wrote a piece in the Times way back in 1892, stating that Jackson was on the way down, caused by his drink problem.

The 37 year old Jackson had had a no contest with Gustav Wilkie 2-3-1 over 6rds 3 years before facing Jeffries,prior to that he had 3 rds with another no hoper a further 3 years before that.His last real fight was in 1892 against Slavin, that is 6 years ,during which time he contracted TB and became alcoholic,if you can convince yourself he was in good form ,then you must believe Jeffries was in his prime when he fought Johnson.
Now stop being ridiculous and, lets get back on topic.

 

On topic, thanks to Boilermaker for digging out these nuggets the way that Paddy dug out gold in the Klondike!
He had that one fight with Maher-billed as an exhibition to get around the do-gooders- and I think the rounds were even shortened to two minutes as a compromise. Maher had him all but out when the stoppage occured but they then did a short tour and while they were exhibitions, neither Slavin's or Maher's style lent itself very well to anything other than all-out aggression.

 

Yes I too would like to add my appreciation to Boilermaker for posting this . Good Man!:good

 

The 1890-1900 era produced a body of fighters that were well above their competitors, Corbett, Jackson, Choynski, Denver Ed Smith, Goddard, Slavin, Maher, Sharkey, Ruhlin, Fitz, and Jeffries. Hall, Childs and Armstrong might be close but the rest were nowhere. Dont know if it was because these guys were so good or just a general lack of depth in the transition period. Godfrey, McAulliffe and Kilrain from the previous era had little success against these guys and fellows like Gardner, O'Brien, Klondike, Griffin, McCoy, Hart, Jack Johnson, etc had their problems with the aging stars, more than you would usually expect for the new wave of champions, so perhaps it was truly a golden age as it was generally percieved at the time.