April 13th, Wembley

Exactly. The sums are simplistic. Yet Tony and a few others continue 'Operation play down Wilder/Fury'. The fight was a success. The rematch will be better again. I've broken down basic, factual/common sense figures for these Matchroom nuts several times and they just can't accept the reality of them.

Boxing is all about the $$$$ unfortunately. If Joshua's 40% was so much better than what Wilder/Fury 2 will generate, Warren and Finkel would be fighting each other to get the AJ fight.

The superior US PPV prices has changed the heavyweight game.

 

One more thing. If Wilder sparks Fury in the rematch, Wilder/AJ surely has to be in America. Wilder AJ in Las Vegas would do over a million buys in UK and possibly a million in the US. 50/50 split. That's money no fight in the UK can generate.

That's obviously the road team Wilder want to take and it makes a lot of sense. Why should they do what Hearn wants when they've got something potentially better in the US.

 

Hayers in HELL rn

 

They’re also underestimating just how popular Fury is not only in the U.K. but in the US. If that rematch is in New York not only will he be bringing thousands over from the U.K. but he will attract the huge number of Americans who have Irish ancestory. You only have to see how many people turned out for Conlan to know that they get behind the Irish big time.

 

It's not just about basic numbers like that though is it? You have to account for how much the cable networks and broadcasters will take out.

Based on PPV sales Joshua Klitschko did somewhere in the region of £30m based on 1.5m x £19.99. But both were paid £15m.

The below is taken from the Wiki article for the Wilder Fury fight:

'According to the [url]California State Athletic Commission[/url], Wilder would earn a guaranteed base purse of $4 million and Fury would take home a guaranteed purse of $3 million.[url][30][/url]Despite Frank Warren's original claim that the revenue would be split 50-50, it was revealed that if the fight generated 1 million PPV buys, Wilder could make $14 million (£10.94 million) and Fury would earn around $10.25 million (£8 million). Both boxers would see this increase to their base purses after receiving their percentages from pay-per-view revenue.[url][31][/url]'

So why do you think Joshua is paid so much more? Why would a million buys still only see Wilder and Fury earning that sort of money?

 

Beat me to it, was typing out something very similar.

 

Tyson Fury plainly isn't that popular in the UK for a variety of reasons. Historically poor ticket sales and viewing figures which the likes of Haye and Joshua have more than doubled or indeed trebled. The rematch with Klitschko sold pathetically and didn't get anywhere near selling out an arena. Plus he's a gypsy and loads of people openly hate them. Frank hasn't released PPV figures for his last fight, which can only indicate they were dreadful.

Where is the evidence that he's popular come from? Your mates?

 

Basically he is more popular than he was when he won the belts
That's a good thing surly??

I don't think I've seen anyone say he has over took AJ in that dept
Who could? Guys a marketers dream

 

Post a link to that article Hayers. 1 million PPV buys generates 65 million dollars. That states that out of 65 million dollars, the A side would only get 15 million?

Espinoza said both fighters would make 8 figures if the fight done 250k ppv buys.

 

Stop harping on about the past and instead look at the present. Your constant reference point is from 3-4 years ago. Get in the ‘now’ Tony.
Have a look on here, on social media, news outlets, magazines, tv etc.

 

Ok. In the 'now' on social media Tyson has less than half the Twitter followers Joshua has, despite being a massive superstar in America with a population six times that of the UK.

But that doesn't count because it suggests he's not that popular, which can, as you request along with his ticket sales and PPV buys, be ignored as irrelevant yeah?

 

Yes, his fight with Klitschko had around half a million buys. Haye did double that and Joshua did treble that on the same channel against the same guy.

But sorry, this is all the past. Tyson is massively popular at the minute. He's a superstar in America. Wonder where he'll be on the next Forbes list?

 

Where did I compare him to AJ’s popularity??? I keep saying that Fury’s popularity has shot up after the Wilder fight. You’re ‘obsessed’ with trying to shoot that down.

 

Still waiting on the link that states Wilder only earns 14 million dollars if the fight done 1 million buys. He made around 14 million from 325k buys so how can that be?

You haven't edited the piece yourself Tony, have you? Anyone can edit wiki anyway and what you've posted is clearly tripe!

 

I see no evidence that he's popular though.

The reason there was a lot of Fury talk on social media and the press in the immediate aftermath was because of the last round and it was a big sporting event. That's it.

You reckon he's gone from a guy who couldn't sell out half the Manchester Arena against Klitschko to a guy who'd sell out Old Trafford against Miller? On what possible basis?!