Archie Moore on Charley Burley

McGrain · Sep 17, 2008

SuzieQ49 said:

anyone else think burley would get overwhelmed against the early 1950s archie moore?
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I should think so. He never weighed less than 175 around that time, did he?

SuzieQ49 · Sep 17, 2008

yaaa....I think Burley would have had a good shot at robinson though

Ezzard · Sep 17, 2008

JohnThomas1 said:

Yet Moore rates Burley better.
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There was a bit of needle between Archie and Ezzard. Apparently Moore said to Ezzard in the clinches of the second or third fight (sorry would have to check emails from my sourse) something like "You really something back in Cincinatti but out here you just another n155er..."

Not taking anything away from Burley, or saying that Moore didn't favour him, but you know how rivals can be...

Ezzard · Sep 17, 2008

To be fair to Archie he was making every fight with Charles closer than the last. No doubt he would have eventually won one of them and the 3-0 though honest and fair doesn't do the great Archie Moore justice.

JohnThomas1 · Sep 17, 2008

Ezzard said:

There was a bit of needle between Archie and Ezzard. Apparently Moore said to Ezzard in the clinches of the second or third fight (sorry would have to check emails from my sourse) something like "You really something back in Cincinatti but out here you just another n155er..."

Not taking anything away from Burley, or saying that Moore didn't favour him, but you know how rivals can be...
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Exactly mate.

McGrain · Sep 17, 2008

Ezzard said:

To be fair to Archie he was making every fight with Charles closer than the last. No doubt he would have eventually won one of them and the 3-0 though honest and fair doesn't do the great Archie Moore justice.
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I agree.

Bslice · Sep 17, 2008

McGrain said:

Burley didn't like Moore. There are stories that he delibertely protracted Archie's beating to punish him for his admitted cockiness. Whatever the truth of these stories the two later became pals. Here are some of Archie's thoughts on Burley:

"Fighting Charley Burely was almost inhuman, because he kept his punches coming at you like a riveting gun beats a tattoo on a rivet. He was a human machinegun the way he kept those punches spouting out, and nerly as dangerous. He was the best fighter I ever fought and the best fighter I ever saw. I recall not being to impressed by Charley [before the fight], of course. I knew he had been scaring everybody to death on the coast. THere hd been stories about how he had chased heavyweight's out of the gym, stiffened sparring partners with the big training gloves. But you must take into account that i've never been burdened by false modesty.

That night in Hollywood Burley did things i've never seen anybody else do...he got away with things that would have got another fighter killed. He kep this hands low and could feint you with his head, his hands, his shoulders, his knees...but the thing that sticks in my mind the most about Burley is the way he defied gravity. He could lean way back on his heels, it just made you miss. You'd figure: this man's way off balance, he can't break an egg from that position. Then you'd get the surprise. Burley could knock you dead from that position, and he could do it with either hand. I've been beaten in other fights - you look at my record, i've been in with a couple of hundred pro's - I was bound to drop a few. But I never lost like I lost to Burley.

He had me on the floor many times, but more than that he outboxed me. That's something I could never understand, because nobody had ever done that to be before. And no-one, incidently, has done it since.

I would say, personally, that I think Charley Burley could have beaten Ray [Robinson] in Ray's best time."

Burley, giving up 5lbs t 155lbs, was credited with 9 of the 10 rounds.
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Damn the more you speak of Burley the more legendary he sounds

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