Archie Moore vs Cleveland Williams

To be fair no one forced him to take the fight. Bad management maybe? Or maybe he really was ready and lost to a good fighter? Whatever the case it happened. No excuses. I personally hate excuses that have nothing to do with the fight. If you’re hurt don’t take the fight. If it’s to soon don’t take the fight. These decisions are on the fighter no excuses.

 

Career-wise, It was the right fight at the right time. Everything on his record points to Williams needing a step up in class at that point anyway. A 25 pound lighter name guy with a bit of mileage left in him was what he needed. He substituted for Charlie Doc Williams.. But It wasn’t so late that there wasn’t time to take publicity photos to promote Cleveland as the replacement.

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Cleveland doesn't look like he was not ready to fight! Very well developed 20 year old indeed.

 

Bob Satterfeild was not 6’2”. Look at the publicity photo of him standing next to Cleveland Williams.

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You seem kind of Butt hurt that a guy that small could really beat somebody that much bigger.

And where is the proof of this 2 days notice anyway? SHOW ME THE PROOF that it was 2 days.


Usually a substitute takes a fight because he’s ready. In this case Williams was ready and 25lb the bigger man who towered over poor Bob.

When did I say Williams was a bum and a slacker? The guy was a good pro on a good run with a good record. Just because I don’t think Williams wasn’t on Archie Moore’s Level dosnt mean he was not a good fighter with a lot going for him.

Very unusual analogy, although no doubt the subject of ”rub sessions” is closer to being your specialist subject than boxing history..

Too much information.

 

It was 2 days. The change was so last minute that even on the day of the fight the papers were still announcing that it was going to be Bob Satterfield v Doc Williams, not Cleveland.

 

First andy Ruiz now Bob Satterfield. What is the point of talking to you if you are going to ignore the official numbers given?

Bob is bending at the knees and hunched over while Williams is almost standing straight up. Photos are not a reliable method for measuring height.

I could care less if Bob was 6'2 or 2'6 but if you are claiming something im gonna need more than am awkward photo of a guy hunching over. Butthurt has nothing to do with it.

 

And you got that information from?..

 

Ok.using your own eyes, Was Bob Satterfeild taller than 6’0 Ezzard Charles?

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Bob Satterfeild was not taller than Ezzard Charles.

 

The first 3 paragraphs made me crease.

 

From, for instance, this clipping from the Daily Nonpareil, June 22, 1954, trailing the Bob Satterfield-Doc Williams fight at Miami Beach that same day.

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Thank you very much for responding. It seems you are correct that on a round up article of all the fights taking place that weekend the fight was still being listed as Bob Satterfeild vs Doc Williams on the week of the fight.

I wonder how often an unknown opponent of one surname is replaced by another unknown with the same surname and they still remember to change the first name?

 

It is not untrue that active fighters can train right through the season and be ready to fight at any time.

It is not untrue that active fighters have taken fights on 2 days notice and won.

Generally fighters take fights because they feel ready.

 

I am answering the implication.

 

Your ignorance is seeping through more and more by the post. I'm done arguing with you as it is unrewarding and I'm getting more and more agitated by your inability to admit you're wrong.