Archie Moore vs Earnie Shavers

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So he's top 10 ever at 175 lbs and top 5 in the world at HW. Still far better than Shavers at any weight.
     
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  2. RockyJim

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    Shavers had serious problems with stamina...and he never had a KO past the 7th round...
     
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  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even if we assume that Shavers was as big as Liston, Moore proved that he could beat Liston-sized opponents. He beat Nino Valdes, Embrel Davidson and Bob Baker without much problems. He also beat bigger fighters that weren't as good as Shavers.
     
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  5. Charlietf

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    I am not debating he was better i just answered to your nonsense comparing them in size
     
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  6. Gazelle Punch

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    Moore is a far better fighter then Lyle and beat far bigger men. And better for that matter.
     
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  7. Charlietf

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    A top 5 hw?? In what era? In an era where the hws were of the size of patterson or marciano. Not hws
     
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  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So what is your point? I never said that Moore was as big as Shavers, I just said that size difference isn't big and that Moore proved himself against fighters as big as Shavers.
     
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  9. Charlietf

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    really? I am waiting for your list of guys who were bigger and better than lyle. Waiting.
     
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  10. 70sFan865

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    In an era he could fight in. There were many bigger fighters than Marciano or Patterson, Moore beat them. Let's not act like Shavers was a kind of giant that was unseen during Moore's career.
     
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  11. Charlietf

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    As big as shavers but tomato cans or not more dangerous and the guys who were better than shavers were smaller
     
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    Shavers was a bigger man than rocky and punched harder than marciano and any guy from moore's era
     
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  13. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nino Valdes was the same caliber of boxer. Same with Bob Baker.
     
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  14. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cool, but boxing is not about punching as hard as possible. Shavers lost a lot of fights he should have won based on your logic and he never beat someone as good as Archie Moore
     
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  15. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Shavers fought in a much harder era for a hw and ended his career with 74-14 with notable wins Nino 48-18. Plus Shavers did hit way harder
     
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