Archie Moore vs Jerry Quarry

I lean toward Archie on skill, plus I'm not sure he'd hurt Moore enough to get him outta there

 

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Interesting matchup, I'm leaning toward Quarry by decision.

 

Anybody who picks Moore doesn't know crap about boxing. So basically 99 percent of the people here. Archie Moore couldn't take a punch at all. When he fought bigger and better guys he didn't have the power to hurt them. Jerry Quarry would stop Moore in a few rounds tops.

Archie Moore's whole career is built up to make it seem like Rocky Marciano actually fought better fighters than he did.

 

Wow, maybe he's coming around... He didn't pick the black guy... This may be an unbiased assessment...

....Oh.

 

Black Panther, I've never heard a bigger load of BS than you just troweled out. Archie was an ATG. There's an eras difference here but IMO it could go either way at heavy. Archie decked the Rock; how many fighters did that? I've said this before but, despite Jerry's hard wallop, he never KO'd the big boys. Spencer was overrated going 0-7-1 after the loss to Quarry, Mac Foster, while having a good punch, feasted on has beens (much like Cooney) before taking on a top-flighter in Jerry and Shavers was still a tad 'green' when he met Quarry.
Eras aside, I might see Quarry at Heavy taking a decision over The Mongoose. An aging and mentally shot Machen boxed a 'green' Jerry's ears off. Archie possessed much of the same skill set. Who knows? My $0.02

 

This is an interesting matchup.

I think Quarry could and would beat Moore to the punch, but I don't want to count out Moore, who could take a hell of a beating and at the same time, plot and execute a way to win.

My instinct says Quarry wins by decision.

No doubt it would be entertaining.

 

I'm thinking about Jerry's fight with Joe Alexander. That left hook that decked Quarry was Moore-like in delivery. Joe was no where near Archie skill-wise. Hmm....

 

I think the Old Mongoose might sneak past him at his heavyweight best. You can argue either way.

 

Morning Hook! Jerry had seen better days when he fought Alexander; interesting that that fight was a mere three months after his fight with Shavers but he was heading downhill even before Shavers; look at Jerry in his fight earlier in 73 against Lyle. He looked a lot more chiseled than the somewhat doughy specimen that stepped in against Earnie; IMO lucky Jerry got to him early before getting nailed by an Earnie bomb that surely packed more of a wallop then Alexander's. I've read he was having marital problems along with some substance use (cocaine?)issues by that time, not sure of the details. My original post pretty much summed up my feelings on this one.

 

This is a really great match. Been debating this for a couple days now.
Still cant comfortable pick one over the the other but right now I will give Quarry a very slight edge at HW. Cant really add anything more than that.

 

I like Moore. I think a much more skilled fighter and I don't see the power argument if one studies the record.

Moore had 25 fights with men who weighed 200 lbs. or more. He went 23-1-1 with 19 KO's. His one loss to an opponent over 200 lbs. was to Muhammad Ali. His over 200 lb. opponents included top rated guys of the era in Valdes, Baker, and Lavorante.

Quarry fought 34 men who weighed over 200 lbs. His record was 25-6-3 with 16 KO's. To me, it is pretty clear he wasn't consistently the puncher Moore was. His defenders will point out four of these defeats were to Ali or Frazier and a fifth to Norton. But none were all that competitive. His two opponents most like Moore, I think, in size and style and skill, Eddie Machen and Jimmy Ellis, defeated Quarry.

I don't see Moore overrated as has been claimed on this thread. He is a very proven fighter. Much more so than Quarry. Overall, Moore defeated 16 men who appeared as rated heavyweights in The Ring's annual rankings, starting in 1946 and going to 1962. Quarry defeated 13 such men.

The one strong argument for Quarry is that he did better against Patterson, but I think Patterson had probably gone back, especially in his strong suit, speed. I also think it was a case of hand speed more than anything else giving Moore trouble which helped Patterson back in 1956.

I can't help but noticing that men like Quarry who got in the ring with Ali and Frazier and were totally outclassed seem to do so much better in these fantasy fights than the guys who got in the ring with Joe Louis, say, and were similarly outclassed. Louis's opponents get tossed into a "bum-of-the-month club" bin. The sixties guys woulda and coulda been champs. I wonder how Quarry would actually have done with Bob Pastor or Lou Nova.

 

Quarry broke Shavers jaw.Shavers had 47 fights under his belt when he fought Quarry.