Archie Moore vs. Joe Calzaghe?

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  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    You seem to really admire Charley Burley, I have no experience with him.

    Any details?
     
  2. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bivins was also hammered by the good but not great Charles several times as well.

    A child could examine Charles record and see how flimsy it is compared to Joe Calzaghe's.

    A child would actually be objective though and not wooed by recognisable names.
     
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    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Safe enough.

    It you bet against loud-mouthed/Gatti-like Americans in every even tp 2-1 fight, you'd get a solid income.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, there isn't a lot of footage (you can check out his fight with cracking light-heavy Oakland Billy Smith on youtube, but it's less than great) and i'll admit part of my admiration springs from his back story - Charley was perhaps the most ducked fighter of all time.

    Think Hopkins with Jones' reaction time and some serious power. He could vary his style dependant upon his opponent and had all the shots. Basically a WW he was chased out of that division by Zivic who bought out Charley's contract when he came to the title - Burley held two wins over the guy. Angelo Dundee, Ray Arcel, Archie Moore, Eddie Futch, Emmanuel Steward and many others have labelled him as the best of all time at some stage.

    I don't know about that but I do know Sugar didn't fancy it.
     
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    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you read the statment, I said I'll stay hush on LHW.

    I also gave Hopkins no chance mate.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Charles is arguably the greatest of all time.

    An interesting claim. I wonder if the same child would see that Calzaghe had defended at B+ level and Bivins actively sought fights with the best of his day?
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Possible.

    You'd still be wrong plenty of times though. As you're proving.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    A ducked fighter eh?

    Well, you know I like those.

    My top 3 current would be Calzaghe, Mijares and Guzman.:yep
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Off topic, Pearl Jam's second record was pure class.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Possibly like no other.

    Jake LaMotta supposedly ducked him for Christsake, and whatever you think of Jake, you know he was up for fighting.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    Which one was that?
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I feel for him then. I hate when great talents are ducked.

    But most of all, I hate 'circle jerking' clubs, if you know what I mean. Such as Taylor-Hopkins-Wright fighting within their little circle and gaining top credit.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    'VS'

    Total class, I was just through the track 'rearview mirror', which is genius.
     
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    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can you give me the excuses for his loses mate?
     
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    Moore, by late stoppage.