Archie Moore vs Primo Carnera

I don't feel so good about Moore's disadvantage but with his skills I'm not surprised if he wins at all.

 

Primo has wins over guys who quite simply did better at heavyweight than Moore did.
Sharkey, Loughran, Uzcudun and Neusel are enough to prove that he could decision Moore.
Moore poses danger with his punching but he is not quite in the class of Baer and Louis in terms of power.

 

Archie had enough power to rock Primo, but I do not see him doing what Max Baer or Joe Louis did. I am going with Primo Carnera by a close decision win over Archie Moore.

 

Yes, one' of those fights where the less skilled fighter has the physical advantages, enough to get him over the line.

 

Moore takes that jab away using head movement, feints and changing his level and positioning of his body and comes back with rights over the top and combinations.
He stops him late.

 

Primo with his engine, wrestling, and strong recuperative powers is difficult for the cute guys, but some did have a strong degree of success. I'd say Archie befuddles him with his head-movement, crossguard, and overall guile. He was also damn apt at handling himself up-close, and clearly knew how to handle a bigger guy in Valdez. Granted, I see Primo as live dog in an ugly dog.

 

Loughran holds no less than three wins over undisputed heavyweight champions. Moore has zero.
Uzcudun knocked out Harry Wills and managed a questionable draw with Schmeling, but he also decisioned Baer over 20 rounds so he did about as well at HW as Moore did.
Everyone Moore lost to also had realistic chances of losing to Sharkey.

 

Moore with a late KO probably in the 11-13th rounds.

 

Loughran has victories over Max Baer, Jack Sharkey and James Braddock.
As for Marciano Vs Sharkey, Jack didn't have great one punch power but he put punches together well, could counter with either hand, leapt out of a crouch with left hooks and could set punches with his jab.
He knocked out Loughran with one punch and had both Schmeling and Dempsey in trouble in the early rounds.
He could fight from any range and was both durable and endurant. Godfrey, Wills and Schmeling couldn't floor him over 42 combined rounds.
He was taking Dempsey's pots, pans and kitchen sink well enough and giving it back until Dempsey decided to foul his way to victory.
Given how much trouble smaller, aged boxers gave Marciano it is not at all unreasonable that a prime 200lbs Sharkey boxes him all night. Jack has just the infighting savvy and toughness needed for Marciano but it's also fair to say Rocky's body/nut work and rabbit punching (Jack liked to bob and weave and Rocky liked to counter that with hammer fists to the back of the head) eventually get to Sharkey. All I'm saying is it's very reasonable that Sharkey gets a decision.

I don't even see Patterson as a favourite against Jack, these two are neck and neck, with Patterson having a better punch and hand speed while Sharkey has a better chin, size and jab.

Ali is tough to call because it's Ali but he was young enough that a technician like Sharkey could give him things he hadn't seen before and win a ten rounder. A fight against Tunney would have helped as an example.

 

We asked in another thread, what Carnera's best result was, and some said his win over Tommy Loughran.

What Loughran and Moore have in common, is that they are two of the best heavyweights, never to hold the lineal title.

Obviously Carnera denied Loughran's dreams.

Now perhaps Moore's power and precision reverses the result, but perhaps Carnera's size proves too much.