Archie Moore vs Sonny Liston

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Whitehurst was outside the ring trying to get back in in the last round of the second Liston fight the final bell saved him from the ko.
     
  2. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Floyd Patterson can KO Moore in 5 then it's reasonable to believe Liston would do the same.
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Moore wasn’t at his best against Patterson but the result would still stand against Moore at his best
     
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  5. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I disagree, Moore bounched back from his brutal beating by Marciano with a nice series of wins but he was still a little worn & the youth of Floyd & the speed got to Archie before Archie could touch that chin, in a different time it could have turned out different
     
  6. Bummy Davis

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    we know that but Sonny still could not record a KO against Whitehurst in 2 fights while Archie recorded 2 for 2 KO's
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Only caveat to that was Liston lacked the speed of Patterson
     
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  8. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    I don’t think any reasonable extrapolation could be made from Archie’s performance against Patterson.
    42-year-old more was dealing with and extortion plug by a former lover claiming that Moore had raped her daughter. MOORE commented after the fight that it was his sorriest loss as a result.
     
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  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    No Archie was not physically or mentally at his best against Patterson and his body looked soft on film. He did not have the same training camp due to a personal situation
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Absolutely Moore did not bring his best that night and did not have a good training camp. His midsection looked soft that night. He wasn’t into it mentally. Patterson brought his best
     
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  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Still bringing this up??

    Let’s go over the facts from the fight

    Moore knocked out whitehurst but not before he was behind on 2 of the 3 scorecards and needed a knockout in the final round to win the fight

    Liston won every round on all 3 cards and whitehurst spent the end of the fight through the ropes where the bell saved him. Under today’s rules it’s a knockout
     
  12. surfinghb

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  13. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sonny didnt get the KO 2X under the rules of the day Archie did 2X, I already stated I picked Sonny in a fight but Archie was light years ahead of Sonny with tecnique & craft & could bang pretty good for a small heavyweight. Do you disagree?
     
  14. Bummy Davis

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    I agree Archie was soft in that fight & did not look anything like himself but I was unaware of a personal situation, makes sense
     
  15. Fergy

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    That's true of Moore .Guy took his lumps and more against Marciano. But against a bloke like Sonny he'd just getting smashed and More efficiently.