Archie Moore W 15 Nino Valdes Final Eliminator for Marcianos Crown

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    "In the rough battle, referee Jim Braddock took one round away from each battler because of low blows. There were no knockdowns but each was knocked back onto his heels several times during the exciting slugging match. Archie Moore was bleeding from the nose and mouth at the finish, and his left eye also was swollen. But he could see very well. Nino Valdes forced the fighting in nearly every round and tried to impale his bobbing-weaving opponent with long left jabs and whistling rights. In the 13th session, Nino's left eye was closed tightly shut and he fought on half-blinded and fatigued. Moore's superiority in the 14th and 15th rounds clinched the fight and gave Moore his 20th straight victory." -United Press


    Scorecard: Jim Braddock (referee and sole judge) - 8-5-2 Moore
    Unofficial UP scorecard - 8-6-1 Moore

    Attendance - 10,800
    Gate - $102,678

    Post fight comments

    "Moore's showing tonight was so impressive that the heavyweight champion must defend against him, possibly at New York in September." -Truman Gibson, IBC secretary

    "Burglary! They used this fight to get Nino out of the heavyweight picture." -Bobby Gleason, Valdes' manager

    "Valdes died in the last couple of rounds." -Archie Moore


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi66CQ_ivDg
     
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  2. McGrain

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    SQ, back in action.
     
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  3. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Moore beats Nino 10 out of 10 times....nice post
     
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  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Is that the same Truman Gibson who told Nick toches that the marciano v Moore fight was fixed?
     
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  5. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent posting, good to see Mr Q online again.
     
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  6. SuzieQ49

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  7. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is the same Truman Gibson who later said that Nick Toches completely misquoted him.

    *I think it ridiculous to think the prideful Moore would have considered dumping a championship fight after working himself up over so many years.
     
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  8. choklab

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    Moore got up too many times for it to be a fixed fight. It has to have been an incredible misquote. .:good
     
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  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Moore was a great fighter and in the day many thought to be a very dangerous opponent for Marciano but Marciano gave Archie a horrific beating despite the flash KD...film does not lie and Archie was a freak of a man but talented as they come
     
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  10. Mendoza

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    I saw some of Valdes in other fights. He's a bit of an under achiever, and should have been more active during his fights.
     
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  11. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have never seen a film of the Charles fight.

    The Jackson fight shows him pushing a hurt Jackson down a couple of times to win on the three knockdown rule. Not all that impressive.

    Valdes did blow out a few second-tier guys and outpoint a few others,

    but he looks mediocre against Moore, Machen, Satterfield, Baker, and the other top men on the films I have seen.
     
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