Are belts in boxing now worthless?

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  1. Shades of Hughie Fury

    Shades of Hughie Fury New Member banned Full Member

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    There are four championship belts per devision (IBF, WBO, WBA & WBC) not to mention all of the sub category belts now in existance such as:

    WBA ''regular'', interim titles, international titles, franchise championships (WBC), IBO and the WBF among other minor belts and special WBC titles (money belt, Mayan belt etc).

    With so many belts in existiance what is the value of being a ''champion'' when there can be/exisit multiple ''champions'' in the same division? Take into acccount the corruptness of some organisations and it could be argued that the belts mean nothing at all.
     
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  2. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not yet completely worthless but becoming worthless, yes.
     
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  3. Robney

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    It's mostly a joke. Nowadays if you end your career without having won at least one of the many secondary belts your career is pretty much a bust.
     
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  4. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    The belts in pro boxing have the same value as the WWE wrestling belts. Basically they show your designation of the respective sanctioning bodys chosen, protected money maker.
     
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  5. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    they don't mean as much anymore. And the sport is watered down so. Boxing might never get to where it was, but it is still good.
     
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  6. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    The minor belts like the interims, WBA regulars, etc, mean absolutely nothing at all to me.

    IBO means nothing me.

    I generally recognize the boxer with the greatest fraction of the four bigger belts -- the WBO, WBA, IBF, and WBC belts -- as the true "champion." The boxers with lesser fractions of these four belts are at the borderline: important, but not true champions of their divisions. In other words, I only view unified champions as real champions.
     
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  7. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As more and more versions of the organisations titles are created, the more worthless holding one of those titles becomes.

    At the highest level (Canelo, Lomachenko, Inoue) where fighters are so good they can move up and down the weight classes. The belts are largely a side show.

    At everything below the highest level, belts mean alot to the fighters. But less to the fans than they have ever done.
     
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  8. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    I no longer pay them any mind
    Its the competitive fights that intrest me and only that
    Hence im not that interested in boxing at the moment
     
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  9. Simon Head

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    Yes completely worthless, I don’t know why everyone is not in agreement on this.

    Whoever is number one on Boxrec or ring magazine is champion, everyone else is just a contender.

    I know ring and Boxrec do not agree right now, Andy Ruiz is the real champion and the man to beat, everyone else is just another boxer that has not made it yet.
     
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  10. BoxingDialogue

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    The only belt I thought was worth anything at one point was the Ring Magazine belt until about 2012.
     
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  11. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Yeah, they're worthless
     
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  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    The Ring mag belt has absolutely no credibility these days. The day Oscar took it over & fired all the good writers it became a laughing stock
     
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  13. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Unless its the BMF (UFC) belt the rest are pretty much useless...
     
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  14. Tramell

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    They have always been worthless dating back to the WBA's origin which was the NBA.
     
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  15. DanielDimov

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    Honestly I don't even make effort to remember nowadays who holds what.
     
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