With all the athletes being scorned and shunned by fans for taking PEDs, why do boxing fans look the other way for guys like Mosley? Look, I was rooting as hard as anyone for Mosley when he faced Oscar, but let's be honest. The guy cheated to jump that far up in weight and put on such a performance. And that's not just an accusation from an Oscar fan. I never liked Oscar and wanted baldy for Mosley to beat him. This is an established fact. It's also established that he continued to do it for some time while campaigning at 147 and above. Why does everyone act like it's not a big deal, and in some cases like it didn't happen? RJJ is another one that got caught, tested positive in his prime, but most fight fans aren't even aware of that fact. Do we have a double standard in this sport? Are fight fans not also somewhat responsible, for their seeming lack of concern towards cheating, for the corrupt state of the sport? Should we be more demanding? Addendum: This honest to God has nothing at all to do with Floyd/Pac negotiations. So let's try to stay away from that.
I dont look away. Christ, I am probably the only crazy on this board that thinks PED's should be legalized and regulated. I am not so niave to think that 95% of the fighters dont use this ****. Get real guys, we are in 2010.
I couldn't give a **** less about PEDs. Only mayweather fans care, and only after he made a big fuss over it. Look at how they view purse splits now.
Fans take after and learn from their favorites... [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcv2SvfhJUA[/ame]
The level that these athletes operate on is so far beyond what most people comprehend that it shouldn't surprise you when somebody gets busted. It's everywhere. Almost every actor who has to put muscle on for a role is juicing. You don't think Rambo was? Look at Major League Baseball. Wake up people. You don't think that the majority of NFL players are on something? Move on to another conversation Beaver Cleaver.
So a lot of athletes do it, so it's ok. And I don't know what actors have to do with it. Plus I guess by "most people" you don't mean yourself. You have comprehension beyond the lay person. Let me yield to your omniscience. :roll: I bet a lot of CEO's embezzle and doctor bookkeeping. We should just turn away and let them steal our money since so many of them do it. That's about the most senseless argument I've ever heard. It doesn't matter if or how you cheat in any sport. Just get enough people to do it, and dumbasses will argue that means it should be ok. Why not legalize traveling in basketball and holding in football. It happens all the damn time, so just make it legal. No fouls either. Way too many guys doing it to waste time stopping the game for it. dublshot, that's the most complete "FAIL" of a post I've ever read. Betrays a total lack of insight into the implications of your own idea. Just stupid.
Most sports stars are on some kind of Performance enhancer, and that is just the world we live in. Wether we like it or not, only the minority are caught and we have to accept that at the top level, sport is often corrupt. PED's are not the only way to cheat, as Plasta-Rito/Margacheato has proved
But by your own theory here, if enough guys started wearing casts under their gloves, we should just accept it.
I must admit I'm surprised by the direction of this thread. I expected people to defend boxing's blase' attitude towards cheating. I didn't expect people to defend cheating.
completely agree with your viewpoint, the likes of mosley, roy jones, toney, and holyfield are a complete disgrace to boxing. their achievements should be scrubbed from boxing like ben johnson's were from athletics. at the end of the day, these fighters are CHEATS, nothing more nothing less, i will never support any fighter who is a proven cheat and it disgusts me that fans of these fighters sweep it under the carpet as though nothing has happenned. i'm not a pacquiao fan, i very rarely post anything about the man but when you consider the witch hunt out their for him when he has never failed a single drugs test, it makes my blood boil for the sheer double standards involved. maybe, its because he is not american :think
Im not saying we should accept concrete gloves by any means. I'm just saying that doing it is a lot more dangerous and immoral than taking PED's ever could be. The 2 are in different leagues. Also, i don't think we should accept the use of performance enhancers, but acknowledge that it happens a lot in modern sports, and manges to go un-noticed. Any sort of PED is wrong, but their is so little fight back against it, that it just happens.