Are Canelo’s achievements devalued by his lack of raw talent/skills

No if anything Canelo is overvalued for what he achieved and how he achieved. He waited Golovkin for years him to age, dropped his chance to meet him earlier. Got a gift of a draw and a win in the both matches he clearly lost. Pursued chinny, shitty super middles. So he is overvalued for what he is. I don't deny he is a great fighter, skilled, good counter punching ability, seems to have a great chin, good head movement. I respect all those but he is juiced to hell as well.

 

Clenelo is the face of boxing. Unfortunately, the face of boxing is a disgusting cretin jacked up on designer PEDs and enters every single fight with a 118-110 scorecard before the bell even sounds.

Clenelo killed a sparring partner, too.

 

It all depends who you ask.

Cash cows often get valued
as well as devalued by
Some people that don’t like to see others succeed for whatever personal reasons they have.
Such is life.

Funny that you use Mayweather & Paquiao as examples of highly skilled cash cows.

Yet they were 2 shining examples of POLARIZING, ATG Accomplished cash cows … depending who you ask.

 

Don't forget outright fixing fights and fooling his naive fans

I mean what a scumbag. Says something about the "sport" that he's considered the face of boxing

 

The dude is the face of boxing, pvp cash cow nr 1 in the entire sport, he is in the conversation for pvp nr 1, already a HOFer and all this as a ginger.
When you say that his achievements are devalued. what exactly do you mean?

 

I'd still love to know if any of the cartels have an interest in his career. He has some big big money behind him.

Quality fighter but he should have at least 1 loss to GGG and possibly even a loss to Lara.

 

Eh? Canelo has fantastic skills, his abilities are not up for debate really IMO. It's his achievements that are questionable because of corrupt judges.

He has two losses IMO, 1 against Mayweather, 1 against GGG.

 

GGG wasn't even on Canelo's radar till he beat Cotto in Nov 2105. He fought GGG less than 2 years later. That's not a long time in boxing. The earliest they could have fought is 2016, and they fought the next year. So he didn't wait "for years" for GGG to age, that's a total lie. He was advised by his team to take a couple more fights before stepping up to GGG, which was a smart decision.

GGG's "aging" problems are not Canelo's problem. GGG was exposed the first time he fought Canelo, which you call a gift draw for Canelo, it was a gift draw for GGG and anyone who comprehends the finer points of boxing saw what happened there. Canelo boxed GGG's socks off that night, frustrated the hell out of GGG, landed some bombs on GGG and GGG was very lucky not to take an L that night. It was a great fight though, GGG fought hard and had some success, it was a very back and forth match. There's no telling what would have happened had they fought the year before, but when they did fight, Canelo did far better than most people thought he would have.

GGG fans are in the business of making excuses for GGG coming up short against Canelo and trying to spin what happened, but it makes no difference how much you cry or try to move the goalposts to make GGG look better. The fact is that Canelo beat GGG at his own game in the rematch and inflicted far more punishment on the G man than he had ever receieved in his career. That was a career defining win for Canelo and no amount of crying or complaining about that is gonna change what happened.

 

Your fight fixing conspiracies are outright nonsense. Grow up and learn to cope with taking an L.

 

Canelo? lack of raw talent/skills??

Are you a bored troll? A plain idiot?

Not sure, tbh.... still trying to decide

 

No he shouldn't. He beat GGG and Lara. Effort and trying really hard doesn't win you boxing matches, clean effective punching does. When the rubber met the road, when push came to shove, Canelo was the better man. GGG failed twice against Canelo and you like many fans on here can't accept what happened.

 

Absolutely not. If anything, high levels of success w/o 'limited' skills would be something to be impressed with.

 

We don't need excuses. 90% of the world agrees with us moron.