Are Canelo’s achievements devalued by his lack of raw talent/skills

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    My honest opinion of Canelo is How much of his success is due to his natural talent & not the obvious "help" he received along the way ? Even with the "help" he couldn't legitimately beat GGG The Vegas judges gave him gift decisions
     
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  2. m.s.

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    Which makes GGG look AAA.
     
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  3. iii

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    Thats because he is !!...
     
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  4. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dude GGG lost all 3 of those rounds in both fights, yall triple groupies are ridiculous
     
  5. m.s.

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    You Canelo freaks think just because Canelo stood and fought for a minute in one of the rounds before running again for dear life means he won the round. In round 10 Canelo in the first minute, slightly got the better of GGG. The next 2 minutes it was all GGG. Round eleven was clearly GGG, round 12 you can give to Canelo. 9-3 GGG. If you want to call a couple rounds even to be nice to Canelo so be it. It's still a clear win for GGG.
     
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  6. iii

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    El Pollo took off along the ropes like it was chriatmas dinnertime lol...
     
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  7. m.s.

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    You say Canelo won rounds 10-12 in both fights? Wasn't it round 10 in fight 2 that GGG hurt Canelo? The tide in that fight turned in the later rounds, Canelo was barely ahead before GGG took over, if he was ahead at all. Canelo fought a hell of a fight in both fights, giving GGG a good go. That's why Canelo dominates everybody else, GGG has 20 title defenses 18 by Ko, you hang with him, your a bad mofo.
     
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  8. shadow111

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    The first minute of Round 10 in the first match, Canelo didn't just "slightly get the better of GGG". He was teeing off on GGG. The crowd was on their feet in a frenzy. Canelo was well ahead after the first minute, and the next 2 minutes was not "all GGG". The next two minutes were very even, back and forth. Canelo was slipping and blocking most of GGG's punches, while landing shots of his own. GGG landed very little of note in the final 2 minutes that could be compared to the major power shots that Canelo landed on GGG in the first minute.

    Canelo was backpeddling at times in those final 2 minutes, which frustrated GGG because he knew he was losing the round. GGG initiated a clinch with 54 seconds left in the round, then rabbit punched Canelo while in the clinch. Then coming out of another clinch, with 36 seconds left, GGG loaded up on a left hook, Canelo ducked it making GGG miss wildly. In the 2nd half of the round, Canelo would back away, back away, then when GGG would get close, Canelo would either block or slip a shot and come back with shots of his own or it would lead to a clinch. You're totally misrepresenting what happened in that 10th round. It was a clear Canelo round.
     
  9. acie2g

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    i feel like you got that in reverse even tho I’ve done it before I’m at work and my job is boring so feel free to post those 3 rd’s and we can break it down but my guy, Canelo did the better work in the championship rounds in both fights with not real thing GGG did better in fight I was have a better has tank because to his credit he won like 5 straight rounds on my card. I personally feel like that’s the reason why the perception of the first fight is how it is Canelo winning a few rds early and a few rds late isn’t as memorable as GGG winning damn near all the middle rds when Canelo gassed, but rds 10,11,&, 12 Canelo landed the better shots and more effective shots
     
  10. m.s.

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    You must be be graduate of the Adylide Byrde school of judging.
     
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  11. acie2g

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    Canelo wasn’t hurt in either fight so idk what you talking about and GGG has like 7/8 Title defenses, JV, regular, interim titles don’t make you no real champ and even in them JV title defense who did he fight? Ducked Lara and Trout Ducked Cotto when he said he’d face him at a CW, ducked Canelo after saying 154-68 and Canelo called him on it, ducked Ward, this man ain’t beat nobody impressive his best win is Jacobs and he arguably lost that, and we see Jacobs ain’t nothing special like that, GGG put up a decent fight in the first match then got dominated IMO in fight II
     
  12. shadow111

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    Weak comeback. You've misreprested what happened. All 3 judges gave that round to Canelo, not just Byrd. Get real, you're being dishonest about what happened in that 10th round. You saying that the last 2 minutes of round 10 was "all GGG" is a complete joke. You're saying this because Canelo was in retreat for some of that last 2 minutes and made GGG come to him. But every time GGG cornered him and got within punching range, Canelo would slip or block punches then comeback with counters to even the exchange. So those sequences weren't enough for GGG to offset that first minute. He wasn't landing clean or effective. When GGG did land it was mostly glancing or ineffective shots that weren't enough to move the needle when it comes to scoring the round. In the final 20 seconds, they were trading power shots which was very entertaining, it wasn't only GGG who was landing. And Canelo made him miss once more right at the end of the round which put an exclamation mark on the round. Canelo did all the little things right in Round 10, GGG was one step behind Canelo throughout.

    And lets not forget Canelo put GGG off-balance in that first minute, GGG never did anything to match what Canelo did to GGG in the first minute. Canelo did far better in the first minute than GGG did in the final 2 minutes.
     
  13. OldSchoolBoxing

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    Do you think Canelo vs Plant was fixed? It looked like Plant took a dive. The fight was weird.
     
  14. iii

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    What a weak stupid post from a weak opaque pussyclat...
     
  15. m.s.

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    20 defenses 18 by KO. GGG ducking Trout and Lara is ridiculous as him ducking Martirosyan, who was easy work for GGG. That's like saying Pacquiao ducked Malignaggi.
    Also before the Rosado fight, Geale unified vs Sturm which elevated him to WBA super champ, then immediately vacated to prevent a Golovkin clash, which we know what the results would have been. That would make GGG super champ from the Rosado fight forward. In which case he would have 15 defenses of the super title 13 by KO. So he is either tied for the most title defenses with Hopkins or the 2nd most in middleweight history. I wish he could have fought those that avoided him, like Martinez, Quillin, Sturm, but he is 11-1-1 (9) by ko vs Ring rated fighters. Quit trying to discredit the one who beat Canelo twice.
     
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