Are counter punchers glorified among hardcore fans?

you have full of assumptions and accusations in your post. when roach said that they need to knock amrquez, it doesn't necessarily mean that they felt that they are falling behind. it could mean that they want a clear win just like what they wanted in the first place. also you are under the assumption that just because the scorecards of the official judges doesn't agree with your scorecard, which you scored on probably a shitty internet feed, you cry of robbery and fixed fights. your evidence are all just assumptions and accusations and nothing more.

i have no problem accepting if my fighter loses legitimately. morales-pacquiao 1 was a close fight but i can agree that morales controlled and dominated pacquiao and agree with the official judges decision. meanwhile, i have problem with people saying that marquez dominated pacquiao in the 3rd fight especially guys that whine robbery when it was a close fight where jmm played it safe the whole fight.

 

this. and some people failed to realize that the official judges would more likely to credit pac with risking more.

 

WTF is wrong with you?

Didn't I just say in my last post that I was not arguing about who won the fight and is completely disgusted with people saying that PAC DIDN'T LAND A SINGLE PUNCH ON JMM AS WHAT MOST OF THE FANBOYS ARE SAYING?

THAT THE F*CKING ARGUMENT IS NOT ABOUT WHO WON THE FIGHT BECAUSE IT'S A F*CKING DIFFERENT DEBATE BUT ABOUT THE FACT THAT PAC DID LAND TONS OF BUSINESS SHOTS?

F*cking people are f*cking dense.
Are you just all ******ed or something?

Oh and yeah, thanks for proving my point about nuthuggers like you.

 

I think the fact that you are such a small group of people that stick to the same nonsense story you should look at yourself for signs of ******ism and stop blaming the masses.

Ive said several times Pac landed a good share of clean punches, difference is JMM landed a lot more of them.

You also COMPLETEY missed the point of the reply to you, but you are too thick to notice.

 

I think were done, you lost your last shred of credibility quite a while ago.
So many people have tried to explain it to you in a polite or in a harsh manner trying to make you see reason and logic but you are just incapeble because you are a blind fanatic.

Hope you find something new to do with your life once Pac retires.

 

and who are you to say that i lost my credibility when you are the one whining about robbery, corruption and taking it personally when people explained to you that there is no such thing as only a one way to score those close fights. and if i lost my credibilty to you, i don't care. you are not that much relevant.

you act like you are the only one to know properly how to score them and **** on other posters or judges who diverges from your infallible judgement.

 

I act like 90%+ that understand the rules and agree with eachother know better than 10% that have a agenda and are clearly full of ****.

Now get lost im done with you, looking at your history you take ANY excuse to make a thread that has nothing to do with Pac about Pac.
Much like the Lederman thread where i pointed out that hes full of **** in GENERAL but you had to attack me and make it about Pac.

Now i actually like Pac and i will root for him if he does get the fight with Mayweather.
But people like you make it very hard to be supportive of him on a boxing forum.

Out of principle i tend to not put people on ignore but you are starting to become very deserving of it as you not only waste my time you waste everyone elses.

I have tried it with logic, reason, facts, popular opinion and everything else but you are just too dumb to understand it and im done explaining it to you.

Whatever is wrong with you i hope you find some professional help because even the Fillipino community where i live is not as blindly obsessive as you are.

 

you said that you are done but kept repeating your same lines and keep arguing on a personal level. i called you on the lederman thread since you are still whining on that thread yet all of them are having fun.

so where are you pulling that percentage now? before you said 80% then it became 85% then now it is 90%? so probably, the next time, you would say that 95% people are of the same opinion to you.

your opinion is that of a robbery and it was not a close fight. there was a thread here before that 70% says that it was a close fight. your opinion also suggest that the judges for this fight are corrupt and were paid. all i can say is that you can whine about the decision but it's all you can do.

i don't care if you support any fighter or not. i don't care if you put me on ignore. just don't act like you alone has the capacity to score a fight and a close fight can only be scored one way.

 

pressure fighters are glorified among judges, thats the problem.

 

I saw the fight on a stream and thought pac won. When I watched it in HD i had it as a narrow JMM victory

 

I just saw the jmm vs pac fight again last night, and sure pac threw more but jmm was not running or fighting conservative, he threw and missed a lot also and pac was also really hesitant he would come and go even when both would get into flurrys it was jmm that backed him off. 115-113 for jmm being very nice to pac.

 

You are an idiot. Plain and simple.
I've said it clearly that I wasn't arguing about who won the fight, because I too thought any unbiased fan can make a case for both Pac and JMM, it's just that ******s like you can't make the excuse that "Pac didn't land any business shots" because he did.


Again, you are an idiot.

And this thread exposed your lack of a functional brain that understands that conclusions are presented with major and minor premises and how people who decide to debate against you would attack your premises and not your conclusion.
And you, in turn, would either drop a premise or support it with a minor one, ultimately to support a conclusion.
You just went out and committed more fallacies than I can count. For instance "a small group of people" is a common fallacy that adheres to "Argumentum ad populum". (Go on, don't be shy and google it)
To save you some time, a "fallacy" is any argument that won't hold any grounds.

My main mistake: thinking you had a hint of Philosophy in you. Hell I was already reaching in thinking that you had a hint of decent education.

 

definitely. I've been saying this for years. they are always surprised when they see the scorecards. It's like it's the only thing they look for. And they are always looking for accuracy and connect %. It's not that important.


if throw 100 punches and land 30, and you throw 20 punches and land 10.

I connect 30%, you connect 50%, but you still ate 3 times more punches than I did. Try to get that simple concept through the skull of most of these fans, it doesn't work.

Also, if you land a bomb on me and I'm good enough to shrug it off like a mosquito bite, but I land a pitter pat on you and it clearly hurts you, then my punch is more effective than yours. Another concept that seems to escape the average hardcore fan.

 

What a hilarious attempt at throwing 1st grade latin to seem intelligent.
You were proven wrong at every step, where everything i said was correct and supported by the experts.

Ultimately what you proved is that you are 1 not educated, 2 not intelligent, 3 lack any meaningful knowledge on the sport and 4 are just plain thick and too ******ed to comprehend basic english and reasoning.

Suppose i can put you in the same catagory as Puga as too ****ing blind and obsessive to respond too.

If you actually have something constructive and intelligent to add you can send a pm untill then im gonna make a mental note to just ignore any post that i see your name involved in.

Let me know when you reach 2nd grade and your Latin gets a bit more creative because my 17 year old cousin is more creative than you.

And btw i stopped taking you seriously after you said "Take note this is a discussion PURELY on the assumption that all Pac did that night was hit air and all JMM did was hit Pac cleanly, which, by comparing their faces at the end of each of their 3 fights will be proven to be both wrong."

Which just plain as day proved you are a ******.

 

they are noobs . hardcore noobs , lol