Are Crawford and Lomachenko the best fighters ever without a defining fight in their prime?

I actually quite agree with this.

If the the fight is finalized, Lopez would be the next opponent after Russell Jr. whom Loma has a real chance of losing to. Others like Linares and Rigo are big names and legendary champions, but still most of people know and agree that Loma had the bigger chance to win prior to the fight due to various factors.

If Loma can win against Lopez, it'll send the signal that he is able to cope against the most physical challenge in the division. Lopez to Loma would be like Batman's Bane in Dark Knight Trilogy.

 

In the 100 plus years of pugilism, I say no they aren't the only ones.

 

Campbell can face some top level opponents and make himself a high value win. Beating all domestic and Euro level opposition doesn't do anything to elevate ones status. It was my issue with Linares also. He should have been salivating to face Easter, Commey, or Garcia. There wasn't much in the division at the time, but take out what is there.

 

Crawford is far too hittable not to get his **** pushed in by young lions like Ortiz or Ennis. Crawford is the U.S. equivalent of a Euro level champ who fakes like he wants tough fights, big fights, but is content to face mediocre opposition for big pay checks.

 

Maybe but he chose to not fight him. Sorry to see Mikey wasting his time at WW. He’s a B level fighter at this weight. Can beat scrubs but the top guys give him a beating. I’m a fan but not of fat Mikey. Wish he’d come down to at least 140. He’s much better at the lighter weight.

 

He believes adjusting to the weight over time will improve him, which it has and will continue to, but it still won’t be enough to beat the top welter.
Loma was always too small for him, can’t hurt him and can’t take his punch. But loma is small for 135, period.
I expect Mikey to fight at 140 in the future, there are some big fights there as soon as the top guy is established, and teofimo and Ryan will be bringing their show to 140 in less than a year too. It’s gonna be a hot division in a minute or two.

 

Don't know if Donald Curry has been mentioned but think he's worth a shout here considering he was considered p4p number 1 by many without a legendary win.

 

I truly believe Mikey doesn't want to fight Loma. It was a fight of very high risk for him eventhough the odd is close to 50:50. And it doesn't offer much money in return too. From career continuity and economic stand-point, I can see why if he doesn't want to do it. The Spence fight, though going against great odds, is in fact a smaller risk for him due to boxing fans mindset and expectation toward a fight of such wide size and weight difference. It was not a show of a title contender fighting against the reigning champion. It was a show of David vs Goliath. Mikey didn't seek a victory, his target is only to survive there to the end of Round 12. Anybody who saw the fight can tell about it. Losing to Spence means he got his first Loss, but it wouldn't hurt his elite status. A good price for the sum of money he received for that fight. The other path that he decided not to choose, on the other hand, offers him the top P4P status and potential bigger income in the future should he wins it, but for the risk that it'd hurt his reputation if he loses it.

I have feeling that Mikey actually thought of fighting Loma even after he fought Spence. Back at Spence post-fight fight interview, he clearly stated that Lomachenko as one of his future potential fight. However, he didn't want to go back to 135. He still didn't like the chance he has there against the unified WBA-WBO champion, and it is more difficult for him to make the weight. As expected, he didn't even bother trying to hold the belt when Sulaiman asked to fight his mandatory.

 

Mikey isn’t adjusting at WW, he just fought a guy who was 3-2-2 in his last seven fights and not close to elite. As I said, Mikey can beat scrubs. The elite guys are too good or too big at WW. Mikey has a better chance at 140 but his best weight is still 135. He’s definitely bigger than Loma, who is a small LW, but it would be a good matchup. Mikey has size and power but Loma is a much smarter/better overall boxer. It would be a 50/50 fight but will probably be one that will never happen. It’s a shame because it could have happened at 135 and Mikey had no interest in the fight.

If Mikey thought it was an easy or winnable fight, he would have made it. He had no business in there with Spence and the extra time isn’t going to change things. Maybe take another payday beating from Manny but I have to think he stock goes down with each bad performance. He can beat another scrub at WW but fans are going to catch on eventually.

 

Mikey went to ask for the loma fight and they said no cause he had a bad shoulder and they weren’t ready for the work. You’ve been told this and still you insist on pushing false narratives that make loma look better than he is. He jumps up 2 divisions to fight the most dangerous ww, since loma wanted none, but you choose to push the narrative that Mikey was afraid of loma and that’s the reason he left the division. You agree that loma refused the pac fight because he would get no credit for beating an old man, but then turn around and say the old man would beat the killers at ww. You refuse to acknowledge their performances against the only opponent they have in common, where he won one and got embarrassed in the other, and look for justifications for the disparity instead.
You created an alternate universe where you can’t see anything for what it actually is. Mikey is going to beat pac, and it’s going to be interesting watching how this will be dealt with in that alternate universe.

 

I love it! Mikey moves up to Welter and gets humiliated vs Spence, beats a 3-2-2 scrub in his second fight and the Mikey fans suddenly get big balls. I don’t see Mikey beating any legit top welter. Hope we see him fight Manny so he can put this bad experiment to rest.

No doubt Mikey wanted to fight injured Loma. He wants no part of healthy Loma. That’s why he ran away to get “moral victories” at welter. Im sure you guys will celebrate the round or two he comes close to winning against Manny before he gets sparked out. Not slamming Mikey but he’s not an elite welter. He’s just a chubby dude trying to fight bigger guys. Overmatched against the good ones. Badly.

 

And if you’re wrong, you got the berries to come back to me and admit ydksab?

 

You know I will. I’m often wrong but that’s what happens when you stick your neck out. I wish there were more close fights in boxing. More 50-50 fights. I root for my favorites but also root for a good fight. Guys I’ve strongly disliked before a fight have gained my admiration and respect by putting on a valiant performance. It’s what makes boxing fun. Unlike rooting for a hometown team. I hate several teams and can never root for them. Different story.

Also, I’m a huge Mikey Garcia fan. He frustrates me at times with his opponent choices but there is no denying his greatness. I just don’t think he is big enough for Welter. The money is bigger at WW, 140 is a tweener division, and Mikey has trouble making 135 these days. I just want to see him fight where he’s at his best.

 

That’s all I can ask of those that disagree with my take, and I will give you the same consideration.

 

Loma had a chance to fight Pac at 138, he ducked out.