Are Fury and Usyk actually the 2 best at heavyweight?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bluebird, Nov 2, 2023.


Are they the best?

  1. Yes, they both beat everyone else.

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    53.3%

  2. No, there's a lesser accomplished boxer(s) who can beat one or the other.

    21 vote(s)
    46.7%
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  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Achievement wise, absolutely!

    But anyone else think both are vulnerable and there's people out there who could beat them? Hrgovic, Jalolov, Zhang come to mind.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutely I still think Usyk has alot of proving to do and H2H wise he's overrated at Heavyweight, fighters like Zhang, Wilder, would be very dangerous fights for him.

    Fury has proven himself a bit more at Heavyweight but at this stage of his career fighters like Joshua, Zhang, Hrgovic, are all dangerous fights.
     
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  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Neither of them beat Hrgovic, or Zhang...
     
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  4. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes.
     
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  5. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Hrgovic is trash though. He robbed old man Zhang and his only success against Zhang came because of Zhangs gas tank - Zhang was controlling the fight otherwise
     
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  6. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Zhang is so good, why did he wait until 40 to step up? Doesn't make sense if they could have had a Chinese champion for the last ten years or so, making millions of dollars.
     
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  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Usyk is.

    Fury is trash, along with his repugnant fanboys.
     
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  8. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's hard to say because we haven't seen enough good fights, the division is strong, but we don't have the kind of fights that should happen...
     
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  9. BCS8

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    There's a lot of guys that would have beaten Ngannou Fury.
     
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  10. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Sorry no...
    Joshua's resume pisses all over Fury's.

    Not to say necessarily that he'd beat him, but on achievements it's not close at all.
     
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  11. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1 belt vs 0
     
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  12. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    'Imagine if Wilder actually had skill'

    Meet Jalolov, a Southpaw Wilder with skill

    This content is protected
     
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  13. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    1) Usyk
    2) Zhang
     
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  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well in China you're not the only one deciding your future,,,,,
     
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  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Usyk > Yes, Fury > Hell No !!!
     
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