Are Fury and Usyk actually the 2 best at heavyweight?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bluebird, Nov 2, 2023.


Are they the best?

  1. Yes, they both beat everyone else.

    24 vote(s)
    53.3%

  2. No, there's a lesser accomplished boxer(s) who can beat one or the other.

    21 vote(s)
    46.7%
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  1. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair, when I'm presented with complete nonsense I feel obliged.
    Looks like the Alt got the ban hammer anyway.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk isn't just the best HW in the world and the real P4P King

    In terms of fighters he's the greatest human being outside of the ring too

    Remind yourself while you're watching this interview that he actually has haters and many are very threatened by him and are desperate to see him fail even though he's literally one of the nicest, most humble, most respectful, funniest, most fearless fighters to ever don a pair of gloves and he literally embodies everything right and great about the sport.

    :lol: Timestamped

    ''I'm sitting in his head like a little tractor driver going like this''

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    He says he won't mock Belly for almost losing to a novice. It's just not his style to do so

    ''One cannot behave like a pig and remain a human being at the same time

    If you behave like a pig, you are a pig''

    Another quote

    "Victory has many parents, but defeat is an orphan."
     
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  3. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury very likely falling off a cliff into post prime status notwithstanding, yes I think he and Fury are actually the best HW's. Usyk, I don't think there's a HW that currently campaigns that can beat him except a (focused) Fury...........and I don't think Fury is focused enough to really do it at this point.

    Nobody is outboxing Usyk, he's too smart, too mobile, and durable enough to weather what he needs to weather.

    Boxing would be far better off if Fury simply retires or if Usyk collects his head and then stitches together a string of defenses...........
     
    northpaw, Nov 3, 2023
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  4. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Zhang on his best day beats everyone in the division tbh.
     
    DaRealJT, Nov 3, 2023
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  5. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All the criticism at Fury aside his resume pisses on AJ's.

    Fury's Wlad > AJ's Wlad
    Wallin > Poverkin
    Fury's Whyte > AJ's Whyte
    Wilder x3 > Ruiz 1-1

    Tbf this just goes on.
     
    iceferg, Nov 3, 2023
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  6. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who's the big tall ginger Russian Muslim. He looks like he's up there too.
     
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  7. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wallin isn't ahead of even that Povetkin by any metric I can see. He doesn't have quality wins and hasn't been impressive against the journeyman he faced.
     
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