Are Haye/Calzaghe/Pavlik undisputed champions?

Who has anything resembling a legit claim to being the Middleweight champ?


Sturm and Abrahams belts are worthless.

 

Beat AA.

 

I'll accept that :hi:

 

Abraham won his belt due to politics, nothing more.

That was Taylors belt, he never lost it, yet Abraham ends up with it.

Abraham is not a legitimate champion at the moment.

 

Incorrect. I'll repeat this again. Bell beat Mormeck in January of 2006. Bell was stripped in April of 2006 for refusing to fight Cunningham. Bell then decided to wait another 11 months before rematching Mormeck. Had Bell done the right thing and fought Cunningham, Cunningham might have all 3 major belts right now. Haye is certainly not undisputed.

 

Every belt has to be picked up somewhere.

Pavlik has beaten one other titlist, a controversial one.

 

Add Mayweather and Hatton to the list.:deal

 

This is rediculous, Bell never lost the belt, you don't lose linearity because the IBF says so.

 

The point his he didnt beat Mormeck did he? Haye did.

 

So are you saying guys should be able to go 15 months without defending their title? How long should they be able to hold up the division and not fight anyone before something is done?

 

A more interesting question is, Zsolt Erdei undisputed...

 

The point is, someone else claimed that Mormeck was stripped of the IBF title. This of course is not true.

 

Yes, every belt comes from somewhere, and Pavliks came from Taylor, so did Abrahams; Pavlik KO'd Taylor, Abraham has never fought him.

Pavliks belts are the true belts, all 4 belts were unified, Taylor took that lineage, Pavlik took it from Taylor, Abraham is not part of the lineage.