Are Haye hypers afraid of Haye actually having to prove himself?

Thanks...

It's a thankless job. Sometimes I feel cold, alone... and scared. However, I know that there is good in the end... somewhere.

They don't seem to understand the simple point in all of this.

1. Yes, Haye has brought excitement into the division with his antics.

2. Yes, Haye is a very talented boxer. He does have speed, and power.

3. No, just being a talented boxer who disrespects the Champion in interviews doesn't assure him an immediate shot at the title.

4. No, Haye has not done anything in the heavyweight division that would support an absurd thought of the Klitschko ducking Haye. As I said before... this would be absolutely no different than if Adamek moved up to Heavyweight, called Wlad a bunch of names... beat Cliff Couser... and then once again did some disrespectful interviews about the Champ. At that point... would Klitschko be ducking Adamek as well? Of course not... just like he is not ducking Haye.

5. It is ridiculous to act like either Klitschko is scared of Haye.

I am NOT saying that it would be silly for Wlad to give Haye a shot right now. He can do so if he wishes. However, I AM saying that the fight would be much bigger, and especially more interesting for Wlad if Haye actually proved himself at heavyweight first. I honestly think that they are spoiling what could be a mega fight, and signature fight for EITHER fighter if Haye actually cleaned out a couple top contenders. Wlad is desperately seeking a signature fight, and Haye could provide that for him, if Haye would get to work himself in the ring... rather than just with his mouth. Even if they just did one fight card, where Wlad fought Arreola, and Haye fought Povetkin on the undercard. That would set up a HUGE showdown for the winners. The problem is... I think that Povetkin would beat Haye. Even if Haye fought someone like James Toney, Chris Chambers, Brewster, Peter, Brock... anyone who's up there.

Right now, Haye is in a win-win situation if he gets a title shot. He wins, he gets the payday, and the title. He loses... het gets the payday, and so what he lost to Wladimir Klitschko. For Wlad, he wins... people will say that he should have won anyways. Haye was just a blown up cruiser, unproven at heavyweight, ect.... This is why it would make much more sense for Haye to actually beat someone of note, to prove that he is worthy at that weight, and that way people can't discredit Wlad after the fact.

 

That's how I am EVERYWHERE. It only seems to be different in the general forum because I have to play the back and forth game with people who won't use logic. I can, and have... typed out a HUGE fact based example of things that I am trying to say. I have used color coding, articles, records... just any facts that I can get my hands on, and I always end up getting a response like ..."**** Wlasaline Bitchko. He's running scared".

It gets rather annoying. Hardly anyone else seems to be willing to go fact for fact... use opinions... but back them up with facts. Rather than saying things like "Wlad knows Haye will knock his ass out".... really? These are the kind of posts that I have to try and respond to. I am not saying you... but I am saying most of the Wlad haters in general. Now.. if they wanted to break down exactly why Haye has deserved a shot at heavyweight (above everyone else), and exactly why that fight needs to happen next... backed up by facts... I would love to see it. Not just... "He was champ at cruiser... him and Wlad have beef... Wlad is ducking him."

 

You are still missing the point. I am not saying that Adamek would have a better shot at beating Wlad than Haye... and I am not saying that Adamek should fight at heavyweight. What I am saying is that people are basing Wlad "ducking" Haye.. and Haye's right to an immediate shot at Wlad on what he did at Cruiser. Haye didn't have any better wins at Cruiser than Adamek does. Get the point? If Haye wanted to get the big fights at heavyweight... why isn't he fighting big name opponents as he lines up a fight with Wlad?:huh It looks much more like he is trying to get a payday. You don't suck your heavyweight frame down to cruiser in order to get the big fights at heayvweight... do you? Haye always said that he struggled to make cruiserweight... so why didn't he just stay at heavyweight and fight his way to the title?

Haye even said in early December that if he gets a fight with Wlad or Vitali in June... that he would NOT fight anyone in between. Why do think that is? Wouldn't you think that if he could so easily beat these "bums" as he calls them... that he could scoop up another payday, and some more heavyweight experience in the process? As well as help promote the Klitshcko fight, making it even bigger?