Are Haye hypers afraid of Haye actually having to prove himself?

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  1. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah was a great game just waiting for the final against spurs now after we win at old trafford :yep:D
     
  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    There that goes again. We don't see how Haye WOULD have done anything against Cunningham. Boxing isn't only about who hits the hardest... you know that right?
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I know he is.
     
  4. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah exactly cunningham doesn't hit hard is not that fast and is easily countered even by a crude fighter like adamek so against a big hitter like haye who is faster than cunningham that spells disaster.
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I would love to stay and talk some more... but I promised the Fiance that she could have my time tonight. She is getting impatient.:twisted: Talk to you guys later, or tomorrow.:sad2
     
  6. Fighting Weight

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    I don't doubt that you will....I was pleased for Derby though always loved Pride Park as an away ground and also their manager is called Clough. I like anyone with that surname cos Liverpool fans hate them :good
     
  7. Fighting Weight

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    Just like we all know that Haye was the best cruiserweight, right?

    Except Haye proved himself at cruiserweight more than WALDO ever has at heavyweight :yep
     
  8. rydersonthestorm

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    to be fair something liek that is always a risk with a new manager and even more so when the managers name is clough at the club is in the east midlands.:lol:
     
  9. JohnConteh

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    i agree different thing need to be taken into account when discussing hw divisions in comparison with others but at the end of the day, when pbf moved up a weight to fight oscar, its the fight to save boxing (which it wasnt) , when d haye does it its unacceptable

    i think enzo beats james toney easily as he has a thin called a workrate, probably not sam peter though, but david haye has shown he is better than enzo so not really a relevent point

    also, evander holyfield is an atg, which i am not claiming d haye to be in any way, and also fought in a much stronger hw division than there is now, im sure if a 27 year old holyfield was around now, he would bother to fight eddie chambers, brewster, toney, rahman, Ibragimov etc in 6 fights before he took a title shot, whereas back then with lewis bruno ruddock, all stong contenders, tyson lurking in the midst and a unifyed champ in bowe holyfield had more to prove
     
  10. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No you don't Widdow.

    You post your own facts.
    When people respond with counter arguments either disputing your 'facts' or presenting ones of your own, you start the "hater" spiel.

    Or just re-present the same facts again.

    For the record. I don't think either brother is 'ducking' Haye.

    I do think Haye is just as, if not more, deserving of a title shot than practically all current contenders on the dual aspects of prior achievements in cruiserweight, crowd appeal and potential money making aspect of the fight. Not to mention he will actually try, and not come in 15-20 pounds overweight.
     
  11. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    I bought myself a few minutes, as my fiance had to run to the store first. :happy

    Anyways.. it looks like we don't have anything to argue about.
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    I think that we are on the same page.
     
  12. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    from what has happened so far though haye should be number 3 in line as long as laeuv is to busy keeping away from either brother it should be valeuv, povetkin, gomez then haye with arreola being 5th in line overall but as valeuv is ducking either brother he gets knocked off the list.
     
  13. Fighting Weight

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    True....his old man ****ed you lot over several times back in the 80's as I recall :rofl:rofl:rofl

    He'd sell you a player for a stupid fee, the player would be **** at United so he'd take him back for peanuts and all of a sudden they'd be a world-beater again :yep

    Hope his son has a touch of the old mans genius, even though he's not going to be anywhere near as entertaining. Quiet lad is Nigel, nothing like his old man.
     
  14. Fighting Weight

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    He also likes to insult your intelligence too, that's always highly amusing in a "glass houses and stones" kind of way.
     
  15. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i met most of the clugh family when i lvied in notts and the great man a few times, one of his other sons used to own a big news agents/shop not to far from the city ground