Are Haye hypers afraid of Haye actually having to prove himself?

I'd like Haye to have a fight. Because it means more boxing for me watch. It also gives Haye a bit more experience fighting the big boys, and that can't hurt.

That said, I'm not exactly excited for a Wlad/Arreola fight and given a choice, I would prefer Wlad vs Haye. Arreola stands no chance, while Haye is a live underdog. Now, Wald vs Valuev is a fight I'd like to first.

 

How many other undisputed champions have to go through the ringer when moving up one weight class, in order to fight the champion?

How long since Barrett fought for a world title?

Is Rahman a top 20 heavyweight these days? Arreola?

****, I think being THE man at cruiser says a lot more then beating Chazz Witherspoon by DQ and Travis Walker as already posted.

 

To answer the question, no I'm not afraid of Haye having to prove himself. As has already been posted he's proved himself recently just as much as pretty much any other WALDO opponent.

It's the Klit-ites that are afraid....very afraid. Can't understand it myself, after all Haye has only beaten two "fringe top 40 heavyweights"

When you consider the amount of money WALDO could make for beating someone with such limited credentials (according to certain Klit-ites) you have to ask yourself "why won't WALDO fight him?" :think

 

It's the exact same argument Floyd fans used when Floyd wouldn't fight Margo. "Who has he beat, he doesn't deserve a fight with Floyd" etc. (unlike the great Sharmba Mitchell of course).

He'll sit back and wait until he loses, and then say "see, he lost to X, I would have won anyway" while continuing to fight the Rahmans and Arreolas of the world.

The best, most interesting fights out there are Wlad against Sam Peter (your brother beating him doesn't count) just for curiosity, Valuev (just to get rid of him) or Haye.

That's it.

The rest are fillers.

Maybe insert James Toney in there, just to retire him once and for all.

 

Such a load of crap i just read.

So what your saying is were afraid of Haye fighting any of the other Heavyweight tosh even though were wanting him to take on the supposed best heavyweight out there? Kind of a contradiction no?

I like Wlad for your information and i will give him all the credit in the world should he beat Haye(which he wont) but the logic behind your its ok to fight Arreola but not Haye is strange. Arreola has fought nobody of any quality whatsoever whereas Haye is a undisputed Champion, i know it wasnt in the heavyweight division but it proves he has some class about him. Arreola is a fat bum, you think Wlad will get more credit for beating him than taking on and beating Haye? If so your ******ed.

Fat boy has beaten no one of any more quality than what Monte Barrett was who Haye demolished with ease.

Ive not just followed Haye since he's just started chasing Wlad, iv'e followed him since he first hit the Cruiserweight scene so im not just buying into hype, i know full well what he can do from watching all of his fights.

At the end of the day if he gets in the ring with Wlad its going to be a damn good fight while it lasts, so get it on asap imo, but if you would rather watch Wlad jab the fat stationery Arreola for round after round then good on ya.

 

Yet again Window gets owned in every way. Such a shameful performance from an ESB hall of fame poster :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

When Holyfield moved up, he wasn't considered a serious threat, though, so he had to prove himself. He couldn't have been given a title shot, because he was expected to be fodder for the much bigger men. Because he proved that to be wrong, it's now much more likely for a cruiserweight like Haye, to be taken seriously as a heavyweight.

I also think you have to think about the depth of the heavyweight division then and now.

I think his achievements at cruiserweight are enough, personally. I'd also say that Bob Foster was a legitimate contender for the heavyweight crown or Wilfredo Gomez was a worthy opponent for Sal Sanchez. Neither man had proved themselves at that weight, but considering how good they were, they were both worthy of a pass. In hindsight, Foster didn't deserve it, but I think it was worth it, anyway.

The haters would not give Wlad praise if he did knock out Haye early. For him to get full praise, he'd need to outbox and stop Haye late.

I think your use of "decided" is well off though. You really think Haye is that much of an easy fight for Wlad?

Toney is washed up. I know you're going to say "Well so was Barrett", but Haye never wanted that fight. He was a means to an end, if you like. Haye wanted to go from cruiser to heavy and step into the ring with Wlad straight away, which is why he isn't calling anyone else out. He's not interested in working his way to the top.

 

No he doesn't....in his own tiny mind he knows how dangerous Haye is, he's a true 50-50 fight for WALDO, maybe 70-30 for VITLAY. Hence the big talk, which will be followed by denial and a swift change of username after the fight should Haye win - those of us that have been around long enough know Windows MO :yep

 

Haye beating a past his prime never was in Monte Barrett means he has a chance at beating Vitali Klitschko? The logic (or lack there of) here is pathetic.

Haye is trying to duck Vitali by fighting Wlad.

Haye knows Vitali will shatter his Glass Jaw and embarrass him.

 

Haye has said he'll fight either of the brothers numb-nuts. It's the brothers that can't quite make up their minds as to who should take on the challenge.....:yep

 

I had thought widow was a decent poster until this thread, widow your a ****ing joke.

 

Incorrect fatty.

Haye is trying to duck Vitali by fighting Wlad.

Haye needs to live up to his words and fight Vitali Klitschko.

I mean after all he was able to beat Monte Barrett a guy Wlad beat to a pulp over 8 years ago.

If Haye does not fight Vitali he is a coward.

 

Haye will fight whichever 1 of the Klits has the balls to get in the ring with him, looks like either 1 of them aint to sure if their balls are quite big enough as they cant seem to make their mind up right now.

 

I support David Haye, But why should I be afraid?
He is the one in there getting hit...

Don't fall in love with the fighter's little ones.