Are Haye hypers afraid of Haye actually having to prove himself?

It'll never stop..


Haye WOULDA knocked Wlad out had he not be knocked out first.

 

Haye isn't hype. Someone who unifies the Crusierweight division and is awarded the Ring Mag belt isn't hype!!

It certainly looks as if Wlad has wormed his way out of the challenge Haye so publically issued just as I predicted he would. Haye is so desperate to fight either one of those oh so beatable slow robots he's agreed to fight the much tougher Vitali rather than continue to pursue Wlad

 

I will say it again CRUISERWEIGHT MEANS NOTHING. Was that clear? You earn your shots at the weight you are fighting in. Does being the #1 contender at WW make you deserving of a MW belt? NO.

Like I said before in this thread, I hope both Klitschko guys fight Haye, but IMHO he does not deserve a title shot after fighting one living HW.

I say bring him on anytime, but either way he has nor earned anything at HW just yet.

 

Righto then. Not sure why you repeating something makes it law but anyway.


The name Thomas Hearns ring a bell? Did he have to work his way up the ladder when taking Middleweight and Light Heavy title shots? Of course not.

Sugar Ray Leonard?
Roy Jones Junior? Roberto Duran?
MOrales? Barrera? Pacman? Hatton?

Did they all start from the bottom when changing weight divisions?

Weight divisions aren't mutually exclusive. Everything you're previously done in another weight isn't discarded when a fighter changes weight class.

How many fights at middleweight did Oscar have before fighting Sturm for the WBO.
Zero.
How many before fighing Hopkins? One. The gift against Sturm.


How many fights did Michael Spinks have before facing Larry Holmes at heavyweight??

ZERO.

He only had 5 fights at Heavyweight. 4 of them title shots, 3 of which were his first 3 fights in the division.
I suppose he didn't EARN them either?????

Want me to carry on??

 

Yes carry on because I have yet to see your HW example. Yes, RJJ got a bogus shot, but he didn't deserve it either. Lower weight class divisions do not earn you an immediate title shot at higher weights. This is especially true of the CW division because it is very lowly, much more so than the HW division even in its current state.

I know it has happened in lower weight classes many times, but thats a big difference when the separation of weights is sometimes like 5-7 pounds, which isn't much. In reality, money makes it all happen but money doe not make Haye deserve it. HW ring accomplishments make any person deserve it.

 

that is easy to say but not easy in practise the guys getting the shots at hevyweight have not really proved anytihng other than the fact they can beat some very average fighters.

 

Surely by winning the fight and dominating Ruiz Jones proved he deserved his shot? :huh

At the risk of upsetting the sack-swingers yet again, what did Sanders actually do to earn his shot at WALDO? He didn't earn his shot at all as far as I remember yet proved that he was worthy of a shot by winning the fight.

 

You UK guys are the same, have your fun, now, and 5 pints fightnite.
Maybe then we can make sense, and discuss the outcome..

 

Spinks jumped 25 pounds and beat Larry Holmes. Light heavy to heavy.

Lets be honest. The majority of title fights have nothing to do with who deserves it, and everything to do with who the promoters are, and how much public interest there is in it.

You think people want to see the Cruiser champ, a fit, strong looking renowned puncher with a dodgy chin and a loud mouth, fight a bigger version of himself really,

or

Wlad fight the watercolour that is Arreola. A pudgy looking, unexciting fighter who has done virtually nothing in ANY division, and only is undefeated because he hasn't fought anybody that's very good yet?

FFS, 6 months ago people were talking about a matchup with a Tua that has been disinterested for about 7 years, inactive for about 3 and seriously picking Tua to beat Arreola!!!!!!

Oh yeah, that guy deserves a title shot.

 

Who did Vitlay beat to get his shot at Lewis??


Herbie Hide?
Larry Donald?
Ross Purrity

 

Exactly. Although to be fair he was only a late replacement....he wouldn't have even been considered for a fight otherwise, he wasn't deemed good enough, just like Byrd and Ruiz :deal

 

Sounds like the standard WALDO mandatory to me.

Just wait too, after the fight we'll have a 50 page wank-fest of Klit-ites banging on about how WALDO is totally dominant because yet again he beat a guy that didn't know how to fight back :nut

 

you are a poor level hater, you seem to forget that at the time th american media where building grant up as the next big heavyweight threat, he was basicaly the heavyweight jeff lacy.