Are Haye hypers afraid of Haye actually having to prove himself?

cuuningham was no threat to haye his weak chin quite clearly showed that

 

cunnigham just got beat by lhw adamek who is pretty unskilled and isn't exactly a banger and is pretty ****ing slow to boot yet you think he would have given haye a good fight :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

haye wasn't the undisputed champ as you said before he was missing a belt :-(
crusierweight is a weak division i have never said it wasn't, but being the champion of that is better than doing nothing in another divsion which is almost as weak heavyweight

 

haye and arreola are about equally as deserving of a wlad shot right now based on ring work imo. I put very little stock on his cw wins. all it porves is he was a very good cw. now, he starts over. they are both hw prospects in my eyes. i rank both between #11-15 as hws.

but the bigger $$$ fight is clear and that's haye...well, haye has gotten his wish imo and June 20 we will find out if he is the goods or a hypejob. i reckon the latter :yep

Wlad may opt for a stay busy fight with arreola first though but haye will get his shot this year so people need to lay off this ducking ****

 

why does he need to start over as has been mentioned a million times the best fighter in a lower weight moving up often gets an instant title shot

 

just my opinion given the situation. some people put a lot of stock in his cws wins as if it will project his hw path..etc...i am not one of them.

eg) he only beat 2 top 10cws. so it's not like he was a long-reigning champ like many of these guys who move up and get immediate shots. And he's moving up to hw facing guys much bigger than him while he was the big man as cw. It's not the same as jumping 5 pounds or even 2 weight divisions at the lower weights imo.

Barrett was a good first fight but he's stepping up to Wlad next and he's in way over his head imo.

However, I prefer Wlad-Haye more so than Wlad-Arreola cause Wlad should get more credit for Haye's scalp :yep

 

Haye is going **** himself when he gets hit by Wlad or Vitali. I'm going to laugh. He will have done all that talking to get a fight where he gets KTFO. Then Haye Hypers can go watch Haye do modeling or get they're hair done by him or something.

 

no because he is a lhw and has only beaten cunningham and went life or death doing that

 

Sometimes you gotta let things develop to see a fighter's overall body of work. By this I am referring to the fact that Fragomeni, as weak a fighter as he is, went on to become a champion by beating Kraj. That makes him a top 10 fighter in the eyes of most. As for Haye's other opponents at cruiserweight, there are some decent names in there. Rossitto is decent and Gurov is a decent fighter despite his early KO losses. It's not as though Haye had been padding his record with unknowns. He was fighting the middle-of-the-road guys who can spring an upset just as easily as they can be starched. Rossitto gave Banks fits and based on what I heard (I don't get Italian TV), Gurov should have been the EBU champ but Cantatore somehow got the decision over him.

What I'm trying to say is that Haye's campaign at cruiser was actually pretty good. He's #3 all-time in the division's history IMO behind Holyfield and Gomez. His wins at 200 don't merit a shot at Wladimir Klitschko but let's not forget that Haye is 3-0 as a heavyweight and fighters who move up in weight get direct title shots all the time. I don't need to provide you with a list to back it up either.

 

Truthfully, I didn't think it through when I posted it but after doing so I'm trying to come up with fighters who could be above him other than Holyfield and Gomez. Maybe Jirov.

Haye beat Mormeck (past his prime or not) so that pretty much puts him above the Frenchman. Orlin Norris? Not quite. Al Cole. Nope. Carlos DeLeon...well he was a 4-time champ but that means that he lost his title as many times as he won it and the fighters who beat him weren't exactly worldbeaters.

 

Well actually, no they are not.

Grant had some good wins, was ****ing huge, had power, skills and athleticism. Fine his chin was terrible, but the American Media were properly hyping this guy, not just some idiot Mexicans on some obscure website.