Are jumping punches legal in boxing?

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  1. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No way *****. Gayweather should've been dq'd against Hatton for that punch. And against Judah when he got badly fouled twice and followed the referee's instructions.
     
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  2. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    wikipedia says that it is debatable so I am slightly leaning towards them unless you can provide a source
     
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  3. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :huh

    It's not about defending Floyd.

    Check Hooks by some are considered to be "pivot punches" but they aren't. Mayweather happens to have the one of the more popular "check hook" KO's of recent time.

    Pivot Punches are spinning backfist (depending on which way you spin).

    Im merely stating what Mayweather did was not a pivot punch. Or else someone would of said something by now from some commission or some high profile writer/boxing historian.



    Stop trying to start **** when theres nothing there.
     
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  4. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think this little know rule was why Quintana wasnt allowed to throw hooks against Berto. Had no clue punches that require pivots were illegal until this month.
     
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  5. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ***sarcasm my dude***
     
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  6. bknystl

    bknystl Active Member Full Member

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    LMAOOOOO!!! I almost forgot he did that in the fight. Funny stuff lolololol :p
     
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  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Wikipedia says

    So some people argue that it's illegal.

    SOME people.

    :lol:

    You're own source you posted http://how-to-box.com/content/boxing-term-day-pivot-blow




    The pivot blow is a right thrown after a complete turn/pivot on heel of one foot. The boxer turns completely around often delivering it like a backhand, or even an elbow. Basically, tremendous force is generated from the acceleration of the spinning motion and their is very little control - they just let it swing.


    I mean, seriously, did you not even read all of what you posted?


    :patsch
     
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  8. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wikipedia is editable by anyone. It's hardly a valid final source, particularly when the point you're referencing has no citations.

    It's irrelevant, however, since in this case the fight was contested in Vegas which has no rules against this mysterious pivot punch. I wish people would reference the actual state regulations when they claim that something is illegal (see, also, ducking below the waist), rather than the random amalgamation of rules on boxrec or wikipedia.
     
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  9. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is a famous picture of Rocky Marciano half jumping to clock an opponent, im sure many of you here have seen it.
     
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  10. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I know he jumped towards Harry "Kid" Matthews with double left hooks ko'ing him. Not sure if it's the same situation but that's the first thing that popped up in my mind.
     
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  11. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The New York state website is hard to navigate...so i dug up California rules

    http://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/stats_regs/regulations.shtml#337

    Section 337 (11) states that spinning and hitting is listed as a foul. It does not stipulate a complete spin. Regulatory statutes from differing states seem to generally mirror each other.

    Fouls In Boxing
    § 337. (11) Spinning and hitting.
     
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  12. stonesrunit

    stonesrunit New Member Full Member

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    A pivot isnt a spin.
     
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  13. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nevada has no clear law on the books regarding the punch in question. It is not explicitly stated in NAC 467.675

    NAC 467.675 Acts constituting fouls in boxing. (NRS 467.030) The following acts constitute fouls in boxing:
    1. Hitting below the belt.
    2. Hitting an opponent who is down or is getting up after being down.
    3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.
    4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.
    5. Wrestling or kicking.
    6. If the referee has signaled that the opponent has been knocked out, striking an opponent who is helpless as a result of previous blows and so supported by the ropes that he does not fall.
    7. Butting with the head or shoulder or using the knee.
    8. Hitting with the open glove, the butt of the hand, the wrist or the elbow, and all backhand blows.
    9. Purposely going down without being hit.
    10. Striking deliberately at that part of the body over the kidneys.
    11. Deliberately using the rabbit punch.
    12. Jabbing the opponent’s eyes with the thumb of the glove.
    13. Using abusive language in the ring.
    14. Engaging in any unsportsmanlike trick or action which causes injury to an opponent.
    15. Hitting on the break.
    16. Hitting after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
    17. Hitting an opponent whose head is between and outside of the ropes.
    18. Pushing an opponent about the ring or into the ropes.
     
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  14. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If your body turns off your foot is that not a spin...
     
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  15. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If your throw a normal hook your body turns on your foot.
     
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