Are Kovalev vs Ward (1&2) the most egregious robberies ever?

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Kovalev vs Ward 1&2

  1. Yes - It was a robbery

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  2. No - 100% fair, Tony Weeks did a great job

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    25.0%
  1. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Kov was robbed first time I agree
    I also 100% agree that GGG ducked the move up. It was a much more prosperous division, yet he hung around to fight nobodies

    I'm far from a GGG hater. He was a brilliant boxer/fighter, but he definitely could have shown more ambition
     
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  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Has to do more with entertainment IMO. Ward wasn't very fan friendly. 3G was very fan friendly. As of course, are many Mexican boxers.
     
  3. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Fair, so why is canelo so hated?
    He's also very entertaining and showed WAY more bottle and ambition than 3G

    Yes I know the controversy around the results, but other than that, he has done 1000 times more than 3G and was the smaller man moving up

    GGGs resume bar canelo really is mostly trash

    Look at the garbage Floyd gets on here for who he ducked. Some of it might be warranted but can you compare Gennadis resume to his? It isn't even in the same ball park

    I just don't get the love for a guy that has the likes of Murray and Geale types as top wins?
     
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  4. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    There are similar or worse robberies, ggg v Canelo 1 and to a slightly less degree 2, Loma v Haney, Taylor v Catterall, Pacquiao v Bradley plus the rest
     
  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's a ton of reasons fans hate boxers. F*ck, that's a big part of being a fan of someone or a team. It's hating others. That's how it's been for ages, and how it will be in the future.

    Maybe people hate floyd because he's an insecure women beater? And resumes or records have zilch to do with it. No one has to be a fan of someone because they are undefeated. Nor does anyone have to form serious hate for a guy w/ a less then stellar resume.

    Canelo gets his hate for his own reasons. Sometimes being a diva turns people off. Why did a lot of Mexicans Hate Oscar?? Same reason. Ain't no rhyme or reason about it.
     
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  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes, but I don't love GGG like the rest, because he fought cans his entire career

    Opinions vary, I'm not debating this any further because I will only end up banned permanently. Which right now I don't care as this is a cess pit
     
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  7. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's actually fought quote a bit of top 10 MWs. But that's your prerogative. Can hate whom you want. Hate just seems a weird route to take, as if it's personal. Not to mention, being a foreigner doesn't present to you the opportunities an American fighter gets. And being a fan of only cash cows or P4P type winners seems like bandwagoning to me. Sounds like you can't be a fan of prospects either, because, you know, they don't fight top comp either.
     
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  8. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I'm not only a fan of bandwagon guys, that's silly to just assume something. Plenty of fighters I am, or have been a fan of that were not great

    I tell you one thing I can do, is not let my hate blind me. I can separate the person from the athlete and actually rate a boxer fairly

    It's possible to rate someone fairly and think their a POS

    Anyway you seem to just like arguing for the sake of it,but it actually bores me, so have a good one!
     
  9. The Real Lance

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    Wasn't talking about 'rating' anyone. Thought this was simply about being a fan. Anyway....
     
  10. AdamT

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    OK fair enough, but I'm done with this forum. Have a good one
     
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  11. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude stop trying to invent some fake racial narrative. Ward was hated because:
    1) He was dreadfully boring
    2) Flagrant cheater (headbutts, elbows, low blows etc)
    3) Very unpleasant, malignantly narcissistic personality , just look at the nickname he created for himself.
     
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  12. lufcrazy

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    **** poll.

    I think the first was a clear Kovalev victory. I never saw the argument for Ward taking 7 of the rounds.

    As for the second, man it's not tiddlywinks. Ward got the ko.
     
  13. Pimp C

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    Of course not. Nothing but jealousy and hate. It's pathetic to be honest.
     
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